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The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread

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21 Jan
3:40pm, 21 Jan 2025
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Bazoaxe
I wouldn’t trust anything the organisers say. History of issues.
21 Jan
7:06pm, 21 Jan 2025
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Daz Love
@larkim - Not sure if entries sold out. Baz was saying he could still get in.
21 Jan
7:13pm, 21 Jan 2025
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Bazoaxe
Standard entries are sold out for the Edinburgh half. There is still the GFA route or charity as well.
21 Jan
7:26pm, 21 Jan 2025
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Charlesvdw
A sub 1:35 half is a lot easier for a 50 year old than for a 59 year old.
21 Jan
7:28pm, 21 Jan 2025
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Bazoaxe
Hey, I am only 57. I reckon with some focus 1:35 is well within range.
21 Jan
9:15pm, 21 Jan 2025
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Charlesvdw
Sub 1:35 is very decent for a 57 year old.
24 Jan
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LouLou
Bazo if you run Alloa I’ve now got a whole cheer squad to encourage you on the hill at menstrie 😂😂
31 Jan
8:37pm, 31 Jan 2025
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Charlesvdw
Interesting article

link.springer.com

We analysed the training characteristics and training
intensity distribution (TID), which refers to the fraction
of training completed within discrete training zones, of

151,813 marathon runners with a wide range of perfor-
mance levels.

Training volume was three times higher in the fastest
runners (fnish times of 120–150 min) compared with
slower runners (>240 min) within the dataset. Faster

runners accrued larger training volumes almost exclu-
sively by accumulating training at intensities below the

lactate threshold (zone 1).
The majority of runners adopted a pyramidal TID
approach, whereby the highest proportion of training
volume is completed in zone 1, and progressively less
training volume is completed between lactate threshold
and critical speed (zone 2) and above critical speed (zone
3). Furthermore, the proportion of runners adopting a
pyramidal TID approach increased with performance,
reaching~80% among runners with fastest marathons
times.
These data suggest that a pyramidal approach with a

high training volume is a hallmark of successful mara-
thon performance.
1 Feb
7:42am, 1 Feb 2025
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HappyG(rrr)
It's interesting Charles that they have used a large dataset and that it is scientifically and statistically valid.

But the actual finding is completely obvious, almost mundane.

Higher training mileage leads to better race performance..

Training mileage is mostly slow running with small proportion of faster running.

Unless I'm missing something? (I only read your abstract not whole link!)

Errr... yeah! :-) G
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8:10am, 1 Feb 2025
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jdawayinamanger
Correlation is not causation

About This Thread

Maintained by Windsor Wool
For those who want to go sub 3.15 in a marathon and/or those that have already done it and want to give advice. Share your journey or help someone else's here.

2025 targets:
Charles - Ghent - 30 Mar
Mark J - Christchurch NZ - 13 Apr
riggys - Tissington - 27 Apr

2024 achievers:
Akie: 3:15 @ Rotterdam
allmatthew: 3:09 @ Manchester
Bowman: 3:01 @ Boras
Mark J: 3:12 @ Christchurch NZ
PJH92: 3:13 @ London
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