The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread
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Aug 2020
10:44am, 10 Aug 2020
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RFJ
Its been a long time since posting in here, (accidentally clicked on it today and saw the mile efforts) FWIW - when i got my mile PB 5:29 (7-8 years ago) one of my best sessions was 400m / 800m / 1200 with 2 mins recovery between each and repeat off a 2m warm up and 2m cool down the last 1200 is hard and need to keep pushing and this gives the strength needed for the lap 3 and 4 for the mile... A quick update on me, my MS is taking a good hold on me, I am still running (25m a week) but a long run for me now is anything between 5-6m as my body / legs will not permit me to go any further, I am now even unsure if I can do a 10k race again. times are down despite trying a small element of speed a week. With the MS came depression and currently signed off work, but have turned the corner and hope to return to work in the next month... Take care all |
Aug 2020
10:58am, 10 Aug 2020
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larkim
Good to hear from you RFJ, especially the penultimate sentence. Wishing you all the best to continue with that positivity.
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Aug 2020
11:15am, 10 Aug 2020
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Windsor Wool
you'd have a lot to contribute here Matt if you wanted to and you know you're among friends... a friend pointed me to this one, a marathon on the 4th October for those still committed: activetrainingworld.co.uk 3 miles from my front door so I can be on hand for cheering / drinks stations! |
Aug 2020
11:29am, 10 Aug 2020
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SPR
RFJ - Sorry to hear of your struggles. It sucks but glad to hear you've turned the corner in regards to depression. 1200 at mile pace in training would be extremely tough on it's own, never mind after a 400 and 800 (the longest rep I've done is 800m)! My preferred method is usually to use accumulated fatigue rather than long reps, so sets for shorter reps with relatively short recovery between reps and long recovery between sets. In the same vein, in regards to the 1k reps increasing to 1 mile reps, the other option is to keep at 1km and decrease recovery gradually. Can use both options. Probably not a session you'd normally see on this thread but this was my session (on road as track isn't open) on Saturday, 4 x (70 secs ~1500 pace, 70 jog, 33 secs ~800 pace, 3 mins rest). The time was approximates for 400m and 200m respectively if the pace was right. As usual I struggled to get down to 800 pace. |
Aug 2020
12:27pm, 10 Aug 2020
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Bazoaxe
RFJ, I am sorry to hear how tough things are for you. WW - 3 miles from front door, Enter it ! I think I will just skip marathons this year and maybe any racing. Spoke to my SiL on Saturday and she noted that with VLM being October, I have Manchester as a spring option which is unusual and on my list of things to investigate |
Aug 2020
11:09am, 11 Aug 2020
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B Rubble
Good to hear from you RFJ. Although the MS may have taken a bit out of you it seems like you are managing to get to grips with it. I would be really interested in how you’re getting on running with MS. You’ve been a stalwart of this thread for a long time it would be great if you would continue posting here. WW Bazo is right, why haven’t you entered it yourself? Tough reps SPR, I’m glad I’m not a track runner anymore. |
Aug 2020
11:21am, 11 Aug 2020
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Bazoaxe
My 6 x 100m last night done on an easy day were slower than Fridays. I was wearing heavier shoes though and also was a bot slower to react to the garmin beeps to signal the start of the next rep. Will go to 8 of these next time out which will be Thursday |
Aug 2020
11:24am, 11 Aug 2020
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B Rubble
Are you looking at racing 800m Baz? Those are middle distance runner reps.
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Aug 2020
11:52am, 11 Aug 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
100m is "strides" for a marathon runner. Not done as 100% efforts, but as a form drill within a longer, general aerobic session?
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Aug 2020
12:08pm, 11 Aug 2020
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SPR
Happy - Hadd 100s are close to 100% (400/800 pace is pretty much 100% for a marathoner I think) and the shortish recovery should make them a nice effort. Baz - You could do it as a time based session if you aren't doing it on track with a 5 sec count in for each rep. BR - Tough but I liked doing it and last set of reps was the fastest so was pretty strong. I'd definitely rather do this than X miles at HM pace, lol. I might do the same session again in a couple of weeks or maybe a 3 x (3 x 300) 800 pace session or a similar one aimed at the mile. |
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