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The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread

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Jun 2020
7:42am, 17 Jun 2020
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Bazoaxe
If I can find the time I might do a wee trial. Run a route and then walk it and see what the difference is.

Just back from an easy 4 miles that netted me 7028 steps
Jun 2020
7:52am, 17 Jun 2020
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Oscar the Grouch
A quick calculation for me is 1600 steps per mile running and around 2000 for walking roughly
Jun 2020
7:56am, 17 Jun 2020
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auburnette
For me, walking 5 miles usually would give me about 10,000 steps but I'd need to run 6 miles for the same number of steps.
Jun 2020
7:56am, 17 Jun 2020
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K5 Gus
OTG - That ratio would just give 20k and you said you got 25k ?
jda
Jun 2020
8:00am, 17 Jun 2020
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jda
It’s just the ratio of stride lengths isn’t it? You don’t need to run and walk for an hour to work it out :-)
Jun 2020
8:26am, 17 Jun 2020
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larkim
I walk about 17m30 per mile, stride length 77cm and cadence 120spm (according to Garmin connect)

A typical flat run might be 7m40 at about 183spm and a stride length of 115cm.

So I'd take about 2100 steps for a mile walked, and 1400 steps for a mile run, but obviously I'd take more than twice as long to accumulate the 2100 steps walked.

A sedentary office day with no running or dedicated activity would net me about 3800 steps, but that can vary up to closer to 10000 if I'm walking the site a lot.
Jun 2020
8:28am, 17 Jun 2020
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paul the builder
I agree with this broadly from OTG ""A quick calculation for me is 1600 steps per mile running and around 2000 for walking roughly"".
I've been wearing a fitbit for a couple of years since a spell of sleeping badly, which in true ptb-style had me grasping for (sleep tracking) data. Now fixed.

It's very time consuming to get a genuine 30k steps per day if not running (or running much). Walking is shorter strides but obviously (more) lower cadence so loses out to running.

Things I've noticed:
- brushing teeth triggers loads of steps (I take the monitor off as I can't stand fakery, even to myself)
- if cooking, stirring pans generates loads too. I also remove when partaking in any chef-ing
- gardening and DIY pile them on too, even when basically stationary. Sawing, hammering, driving screws. At least you are being active here I guess.
- and it's really easy to generate fake numbers just bouncing the monitor around in your hand.

Pinch of salt needed, IMHO.
Jun 2020
8:36am, 17 Jun 2020
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larkim
My significantly overweight BIL is claiming to be walking 13-14m per day around the exterior of his house whilst avoiding going off his property and no doubt racking up steps as he goes. But he'd be having to be walking for 5-6 hours a day at the speed he walks.

There's is no way on earth he is doing that, otherwise he wouldn't be the size he is, but I'm not saying that to him. But clearly the steps / distance data that some people get on watches, phones, etc is fraught with nonsense!
Jun 2020
8:44am, 17 Jun 2020
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KinkyS
Try being a key worker with a physical job, working 7 days per week since lockdown and run-commuting because you don't want to use the train - that seems to do it 🤣
Jun 2020
9:08am, 17 Jun 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
Well done Kinky! A nurse running club mate of mine used to walk 3 miles to work, do a 12 hour shift walking up and down wards, walk 3 miles home, then run with us in the evening 6-8 miles. Think she might have got some decent step count?!

You get more steps walking per mile than running, but less per hour (obv!) so anyone doing more than 15K steps a day has to be spending *many* hours doing it. Not likely if you are a desk based worker. Unless they are walking on a treadmill at a standing desk?!

Bazo, I love that you are trying to police the "step counts for health" initiative at work! :-) G

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For those who want to go sub 3.15 in a marathon and/or those that have already done it and want to give advice. Share your journey or help someone else's here.

2025 targets:
Charles - Ghent - 30 Mar
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riggys - Tissington - 27 Apr

2024 achievers:
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allmatthew: 3:09 @ Manchester
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Mark J: 3:12 @ Christchurch NZ
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