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The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread

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Nov 2019
9:09pm, 12 Nov 2019
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riggsy99
My thoughts at the moment are to not do Sheffield 1/2 but do Retford as planned on 8/3 giving plenty of time to recover. The course is as close to Boston hill wise etc as I will get around here.
Nov 2019
9:17pm, 12 Nov 2019
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Joe Hawk
Pfft.
I did an ultra two days before my PB 🤣
Nov 2019
8:48am, 13 Nov 2019
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HappyG(rrr)
Yeah, but Joe, you're "special"! ;-)
Nov 2019
10:34am, 13 Nov 2019
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larkim
Probably not the right forum to ask this, but when I'm running I know what to expect from heartrate, even when I'm not in top form. Gradual rise in the first mile, and then even when unfit I can expect it to remain fairly level for 4-5 miles at the very least if effort level doesn't change.

Did a completely steady turbo session last night - whilst the "miles" and "speed" are notional calcs from speed sensor, I know I was 100% consistent throughout. But HR took at least 30 minutes to reach a steady state. My legs aren't really up to doing much more than 45 minutes in any event (I just don't have cycling muscles - yet), so in those last 10-15 minutes I was more muscularly fatigued so if anything I'd have expected to see an increase then, with a steadier plateau earlier.

Is that sort of pattern about right for what runners see on turbo trainers?

Log is this one fetcheveryone.com/t-16833909
Nov 2019
12:21pm, 13 Nov 2019
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Bazoaxe
Joe - you ran a marathon PB the week before your marathon PB !!!!!
Nov 2019
1:09pm, 13 Nov 2019
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Joe Hawk
Baz - Nah only a 2:58 and it was short
Nov 2019
3:35pm, 13 Nov 2019
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clare1976
I've booked a half 5 weeks before Manchester which I intend to race. However given it took me several days to recover from my raced half last month and that's in the middle of the peak training period, I am also starting my training plan a week early (19 weeks out) as had been suggested on here so I can in effect pause the schedule 3 days or so before the hm and resume on the weds-thurs afterwards. So I can have a mini taper / recovery with just easy miles either side of my half and not lose any key sessions.

As WW said, my main reason for not doing a half 3 weeks out is that's when the longest last run is traditionally done. So unless the hm is something like 7WU/13MP, I'd not do it myself.
Nov 2019
4:12pm, 13 Nov 2019
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HappyG(rrr)
As I said clare - my best half, 10K and mara were 5, 4 and zero (obv!) weeks apart. Ideal! :-) G
Nov 2019
5:03pm, 13 Nov 2019
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Bazoaxe
HG good points - My PBs ah HM, 5k and Marathon were 4 ,2 and 0 weeks
Nov 2019
8:30pm, 13 Nov 2019
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puzzler
Clare, I am following the same plan. 19 weeks from Manchester is only 10 days away!!

About This Thread

Maintained by Windsor Wool
For those who want to go sub 3.15 in a marathon and/or those that have already done it and want to give advice. Share your journey or help someone else's here.

2025 targets:
Charles - Ghent - 30 Mar
Mark J - Christchurch NZ - 13 Apr
riggys - Tissington - 27 Apr

2024 achievers:
Akie: 3:15 @ Rotterdam
allmatthew: 3:09 @ Manchester
Bowman: 3:01 @ Boras
Mark J: 3:12 @ Christchurch NZ
PJH92: 3:13 @ London
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