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Aug 2017
7:37pm, 16 Aug 2017
6,191 posts
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paul the builder
Cool, pleased to hear that. Thanks for the contribution over on HR, too.
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Aug 2017
11:04am, 17 Aug 2017
2,533 posts
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larkim
Sports massage - never had one, 7.5 weeks to Chester, would you recommend? And if so, at what point in the next 7.5 weeks?
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Aug 2017
11:17am, 17 Aug 2017
3,099 posts
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Curly45
lark - I have a sports massage about every 3-4 weeks. Pre race I would do 3-4 days before as a closest. If it is done properly you will be a touch tender for 2 days, then feel awesome the day or two after that.
(depends on how deep the massage goes and how many aches and pains you have hiding away!)
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Aug 2017
11:45am, 17 Aug 2017
27,170 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
I used to have one 1 week to 10 days out larks (i.e. when there were no more hard training sessions in the plan). Leaving time to recover, cos they can really hurt.
I can afford a few more now (in my twilight years  ) so try and get one every 4 weeks or so. I do still try and time it to finish 10 days out and each one to be after hard session(s) rather than before. Enjoy!
(Funny was just trying to book my 3rd of 4 in this Chester cycle, actually!)
Got my 15 mile MLR in last night. Psychologically tough, but physically OK. I mistimed it slightly - meant to do 5 to club, 5 with club, 5 back. By time I got to club I was at 8 and had 10 mins to wait for them, so that was 9 miles. So just did 1 mile with them and returned a shorter way for 15.2. Felt quite good, even at the end. All slow and easy of course though, as is my wont.
Looking forward to a half on weekend that I haven't done before. If it turns out to be hilly I'll use that for my excuse of being rubbish! And a local village 10K midweek next week should be a laugh. No long run this week because of half, but will still be 65 or more for the week. Oh, one of those tempo things in for tomorrow too. Eep! G
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Aug 2017
1:46pm, 17 Aug 2017
2,538 posts
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larkim
Thanks all. Might have to get some local recommendations and get something booked in - one in a week or so and then one closer to the event. If I can get SWMBO to unlock the cabinet to the finances...
On a separate note, I've been a cheapskate and bought Wiggle's own brand gels on the basis that the nutritional content was more or less the same as the SIS ones and they were about 1/3 cheaper. Have used them with no negative consequences on the last couple of long runs (including the MP LR) to make sure I can consume without issue etc (though if I'm honest I'm not sure I can "feel" the impact they have). [Review - "lemon meringue" flavour, very tasty and sweet, cola flavour - just like the cheap colas my mum used to get, again very tasty. Both similar consistency to the SIS ones, not too gloopy]
However, I've noticed the caffeine ones have only 30mg caffeine in, and the SIS ones have 75mg. That's a fair difference. I'm planning on this weeks long run to do some more gel-trials, but was thinking of supplmenting the caffeine ones with a pro plus pill (or part of) at the same time. Pro plus are 50mg caffeine so a full one would be just 5mg over what a SIS caff gel contains. Providing I can get it down without issue, I can't see an issue with this (beyond my fellow runners being freaked out if they see me popping pills in the race!). Is this a strategy anyone else has done?
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Aug 2017
1:52pm, 17 Aug 2017
27,173 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Yeah, I used proplus in ultras. Very effective for stopping you sleep walking (ultra issue) but for marathons for keeping you "focussed" (i.e. wired!) Most people only do caffeinated gels in last part of race (I do them throughout, from mile 4 onwards, 8 of! And a double espresso before I start. I like caffeine!) G
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Aug 2017
2:01pm, 17 Aug 2017
2,539 posts
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larkim
I'm a caffeine fiend too, so have no fear that my body can't hack the equivalent of a shot of espresso every few miles. I wouldn't want to risk a double shot on the start line unless I had full bowel clearance before (!), but a large espresso is always part of at least the 2 hour run up to a half.
Was only planning on it being a second half feature anyway, though I might experiment with 1 non-caff (with pro plus), 1 caff, etc on one of the next few long runs. I suppose at least if I feel the caff is getting to overload I can at least moderate the intake if I don't use a proplus too.
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Aug 2017
2:12pm, 17 Aug 2017
784 posts
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Shortcut Cam
I stayed away from caffeine gels for my Lairig Ghru marathon in June and didn't suffer the post-race nausea I had at Snowdonia and London marathons taking caffeine gels (Torque and SIS respectively). Personal thing Larkin, but as you say experiment with them on your long runs.
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Aug 2017
2:20pm, 17 Aug 2017
2,540 posts
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larkim
Yep, I'm prepared for adverse consequences in the trials, it's actually one of the reasons why I'm doing the 20 mile race in a few weeks time as, whilst I won't be running flat out all the way, it'll probably give me the best chance to simulate in-race gel consumption as the whole gel thing is new to me really.
Part of me is tempted to do what I would normally have done for long runs, and not take on any fuel as that hasn't caused me issues in the past, but I'm working on the basis that so long as I can trial gels in practice without "gastric distress" then at worst they won't do much during Chester, and at best they will be help to top up the energy stores as I go around.
If I ever get to doing more than one marathon, experimenting a bit more radically with feeding would be something I'd be interested in trying.
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Aug 2017
3:01pm, 17 Aug 2017
27,175 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
I think you're doing lots of great prep in your build up larks. More than most. Be prepared on the day that not everything will go as expected, no matter how much prep you've done, so you may still need to adapt e.g. even if you don't like Lucozade sport drink, if you're not getting on with your gels on the day, be prepared to sip some Lucozade instead etc. My first "raced" mara, I took 4 gels but still hit wall at 22 miles and a 500ml Lucozade sport saved me! G
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