The Environment Thread :-)
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Aug 2024
10:11am, 30 Aug 2024
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run free
@Dave W There are larger populations in the developing countries than the developed countries. Largely people in the developed nations tend to waste far more and create far more carbon emissions and toxic waste than those in the developing countries. There are companies from developed nations that take advantage of poor environmental laws in those developing countries to pollute. Evidence is from the amount of waste being shipped to developing nations for so many years and due to stopping some of the toxic plastic waste from being shipped is now being incinerated and has come under the terms “recycling” and “energy generation”. There are many waste Mountains and lakes that the developed nations have dumped in developing countries that have poor waste management. Examples are China, Malaysia, India, Indonesia, Africa. The toxic waste that have been imported into those countries is degrading into micro-plastic and leaching toxic chemicals into their soil and into the waterways. This will continue for many more years even if the population is reduced and even though we have Now stopped exporting a lot of our waste to them Sorry I have nothing good to say for our stupidity and greed for stuff and power |
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Aug 2024
10:34am, 30 Aug 2024
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run free
If more of us can fight for our environment, this will have a larger impact. Locally, do we want good water in our rivers, then we need the govt to hold those Water companies who continue to pollute accountable. It is unbelievable that these water companies are saying they don't have funds yet appear to pay bonuses to the management. e.g. oxfordmail.co.uk This looks like a company that wants a bail out to give more bonuses to their bosses. Didn't one of the bail outs of one of the banks do exactly that pre-Covid? Anyway here is anguardian article: theguardian.com Currently it has been reported the CEO is taking 195K / month in bonuses - will be given 156% of his salary in bonuses. And who lifted bonus caps? The worst PM in British History. |
Aug 2024
1:27pm, 30 Aug 2024
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HappyG(rrr)
This always strikes me as wrong thinking. bbc.co.uk "Sustainable" aircraft fuel. It's only "net zero" because it is reclaimed oil from other sources, but it is still burned and emit CO2 on use, so how is that a good thing? You could argue that coal, oil and gas from the ground are net zero because they are carbon, and when they are burnt there's not net additional carbon. It's the extra CO2 that is the problem. So using veg oil, which is not CO2 in the atmosphere, and burning it to convert it to CO2 in the atmosphere is exactly what we are trying to avoid. It's not whether it was coal or oil in the first place that matters. Ditto taking CO2 out of the atmosphere, turning it into fuel (massively inefficient) and then you are still burning it and putting it back in the atmosphere. We need to be taking CO2 out of the atmosphere, and keeping it out. Not putting it back in by flying in jets. Sheesh!  G
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Aug 2024
2:13pm, 30 Aug 2024
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cackleberry
It should be called 'carbon balance' because it's a cycle. We cannot create anything extra as we live in a closed system. Burning fossil fuels is only replacing the carbon that was in the atmosphere before, just millions of years ago. Part of the problem is that we are dong that AND destroying the current day carbon sinks at the same time. (and polluting the soil, the rivers, destroying habitat etc. Getting rid of humans would fix everything basically. we are a parasitic species.) |
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Sep 2024
12:03am, 4 Sep 2024
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run free
The UK makes up @ 0.8% of the world population which is currently at about 8 billion. The UK wastes 9 million tonnes of food a year. The world wastes 900 million tonnes of food a year. 🤔
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Sep 2024
4:29am, 4 Sep 2024
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run free
Please check my maths for amounts wasted comparing 3 rich nations vs 1 developing country with a large population size. Values from web searches either from Govt websites or statistica p China: - food waste = 35 million tonnes - population = 1.42 billion - ratio of food waste/person @ 20kg/person USA: - food waste = 60 million tonnes - population = 345.7 million - ratio of food waste/person @ 173kg/person UK - ratio of food waste/person @ 130kg/person Singapore - food waste = 813 thousand tonnes - population = 5.92 million - ratio of food waste/person @ 135kg/person |
Sep 2024
6:26pm, 9 Sep 2024
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rf_fozzy
EU now generated more electricity from solar and wind than fossil fuels. bsky.app |
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Sep 2024
9:58pm, 9 Sep 2024
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HappyG(rrr)
50% is good but not good enough. Need to accelerate. G
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Sep 2024
10:15am, 10 Sep 2024
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rf_fozzy
It's massive achievement. Don't do it down. That's not all renewables - just wind and solar... |
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Sep 2024
1:40pm, 10 Sep 2024
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HappyG(rrr)
I'm not doing it down, I'm demanding it goes up. Quite the reverse! G
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