Dec 2024
5:57pm, 1 Dec 2024
11,874 posts
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Fields
Anyway the biggest immigration problem where I live is wealthy retirees from SE England moving down here, who will put a far greater burden to local services and infrastructure than any immigrant of working age, purely down to their age. So, following the logic of Starmer, Farage, Badenoch and the other far right politicians, send them back to where they come from - Hertfordshire probably. Perhaps find out where they’re living and get a mob together to burn it down? |
Dec 2024
6:26pm, 1 Dec 2024
10,017 posts
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simbil
Tricky one, is the right to freedom of settlement within the country more important than the right to a balanced and functional local community? I'm sure plenty in Wales, Cornwall and Devon amongst others would be happy to send people packing and have houses they might be able to afford to live in, due to their "birth right". But what if the people moving in and inflating prices aren't rich pensioners but are people desperate to work in the tourist industry - how could they not have a right to live close to where they work? And what if poor people born in an area with no means to move have no way to compete with people that move into the area? Quite the dilemma and perhaps not simply the case that people have the freedom to be wherever they want to be as it may have effects on others. |
Dec 2024
6:35pm, 1 Dec 2024
22,477 posts
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Chrisull
Second homes higher taxation or outright bans is one way of dealing with it. That is the main reason for house price inflation. Places such as St Mawes and Kingsand are ghost towns in the winter when the second homers pack up and leave, they really are quite eerie. People who are moving in permanently and working are welcomed. We have the housing campaigner here who has to live a shed as she can't afford anywhere else that Simon Reeve highlighted in his first program on Cornwall. |
Dec 2024
6:47pm, 1 Dec 2024
3,607 posts
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Muttley
I remember that programme, and her. Where I am, in Hayle, they're building loads of new homes but none for first-time buyers or locals. By the harbour there's fancy three-storey town houses for £750k and flats for £400k. Even in the developments on the other side of town the lowest prices are £300k or so, which is a good 10 times a decent local salary. This is the harbourside development. haylenorthquay.co.uk This area has long been a semi-derelict eyesore so anything would be an improvement but I just can't see the demand among locals for this kind of high-end development. The first builder went bust and a new one has taken over. They promise 93 "affordable" homes, which I will believe when I see them. The fancy places already built generally have holiday home vans parked outside them. |
Dec 2024
6:48pm, 1 Dec 2024
7,061 posts
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paulcook
Yep. Robin Hoods Bay among other an example of a town up here on the North Yorks coast decimated in winter because of second homes.
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Dec 2024
6:55pm, 1 Dec 2024
3,608 posts
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Muttley
Hayle isn't too bad in that regard, tbh. It's a working harbour and while it is on the coast it's not a beach town (the beaches are nearby but not as accessible as for example St Ives and Polzeath, etc). So it's not as deserted in winter as those places. But there's an estate across the estuary that is almost entirely second and holiday homes. It's as quiet as the grave outside peak season times.
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Dec 2024
7:07pm, 1 Dec 2024
5,397 posts
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run free
Zelensky has considered ceding to Russia.under NATO. If this happens it will prob be in 2025 and Trump can claim he brought peace between the 2 nations
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Dec 2024
7:44pm, 1 Dec 2024
30,355 posts
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richmac
paulcook wrote: Yep. Robin Hoods Bay among other an example of a town up here on the North Yorks coast decimated in winter because of second homes. yep every property seems to have one of those key safes |
Dec 2024
7:58pm, 1 Dec 2024
10,543 posts
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Ally-C
Reading a rumour, hopefully nonsense, about Musk donating £100 million to Farage.
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Dec 2024
7:58pm, 1 Dec 2024
10,544 posts
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Ally-C
$100 million.
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