15 Sep
8:45am, 15 Sep 2024
33,117 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I don't think Starmdalf has shown he can do the poetry. He needs to learn it sharpish.
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15 Sep
10:12am, 15 Sep 2024
46,141 posts
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SPR
It's not the single issue. Starmer and Reeves have basically told us to expect austerity in the October budget and other than the WFA, we have speculation or educated guesses of what that means. It's not really surprising that the atmosphere is gloomy when we're told it's going to get worse but we don't know how but we know that they want to fill a £22bn black hole.
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15 Sep
10:20am, 15 Sep 2024
22,086 posts
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Dave W
Unremitting doom and gloom though just pisses people off. They were voted in to sort out the mess. So tell us how shit it is and why, but tell us that it's going to get better. And do some stuff that has an immediate effect that won't cost sod all. And Tory policies failed the country for the last 14 years. To continue those policies thinking that there might be a different result seems a bit daft to me. I know they're doing different stuff and I hope it will pay dividends in the long run. Bugger the Tory press. Most people don't give a shit what the Telegraph or the Mail says these days. You have a massive mandate from the country. Use it. But do it with a smile. |
15 Sep
10:59am, 15 Sep 2024
17,805 posts
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jda
I'll remember for future reference that one voter in three is a "massive mandate". (ok, it was more than one in three, a "massive" 33.7%, the lowest winning percentage for 100 years IIRC) |
15 Sep
11:02am, 15 Sep 2024
4,506 posts
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Cheg
It was an anti-conservative election. People voted to get them out. Them’s the rules. Move on.
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15 Sep
11:04am, 15 Sep 2024
22,087 posts
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Dave W
Okay. Took a couple of seats more than the Tories, though. Peoples' faith in politics has been battered by the Tories in government. Not a lot that Labour could have done about that. |
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15 Sep
11:05am, 15 Sep 2024
17,806 posts
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jda
Oh, of course he won, but the idea that there was some big groundswell of support for him and his policies is simply not borne out by the facts. He was marginally the least dismal of a depressingly poor bunch.
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15 Sep
11:09am, 15 Sep 2024
22,089 posts
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Dave W
In your opinion.
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15 Sep
12:22pm, 15 Sep 2024
17,807 posts
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jda
Ok, it's the Tories' fault that so few people voted Labour. They wanted to really.
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15 Sep
1:53pm, 15 Sep 2024
6,451 posts
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paulcook
Cheg wrote: It was an anti-conservative election. People voted to get them out. Them’s the rules. Move on. Probably an almost irrelevant one but there was a poll this week. Think Labour were down to a nominal 29% but still had an equated majority of 50. |
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