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4:04pm, 5 Sep 2024
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paulcook
Fields wrote: Why bother having an election in France if they just appoint someone from a party who lost Macron done a deal with the fascists, non? |
5 Sep
4:37pm, 5 Sep 2024
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Fields
paulcook wrote: Fields wrote:Why bother having an election in France if they just appoint someone from a party who lost Macron done a deal with the fascists, non? Centrists will side with fascists over socialists every time given the choice Democracy is a sham |
5 Sep
4:46pm, 5 Sep 2024
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Pothunter
Fields wrote: Democracy is a sham But better than the alternatives 
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5 Sep
5:09pm, 5 Sep 2024
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Cerrertonia
paulcook wrote: Interesting situation, three roughly equal sized blocs, almost like a Mexican standoff. New PM needs half of MPs to not vote against the appointment. Can't have a left-wing PM because Macron's lot + centre-right + Le Pen will veto it, can't have a Le Pen PM because everyone else will veto it, can't have one from Macron's party because both left and right will veto it. That only leaves someone from one of the minor parties, so the trick is to find someone sufficiently inoffensive to everyone. The other option is that France becomes ungovernable because no-one can agree on a PM.
Macron done a deal with the fascists, non? |
5 Sep
7:18pm, 5 Sep 2024
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Bazoaxe
It’s been an interesting days reading. Pensions are complex and there are a lot of misconceptions around them I appreciate I am very lucky having 38 years service in one firm and having been in a db for most of that. It was non contributory final salary, became contributory to maintain benefits for a short while then became non contributory career average. The career average closed and we are now DC. However I was told when career average closed part of the reason was that the way they calculated the career average worked against them and you were actually doing better than final salary. I have no idea if that was true or not The key for me is that we should all be putting as much as we can into a DC pot. Fozzy doesn’t like it due to the tax avoidance, but if you want any kind of pension you need to make best use of the tools available. |
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5 Sep
7:46pm, 5 Sep 2024
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Fields
Cerrertonia wrote: paulcook wrote:Macron done a deal with the fascists, non? Interesting situation, three roughly equal sized blocs, almost like a Mexican standoff. New PM needs half of MPs to not vote against the appointment. Can't have a left-wing PM because Macron's lot + centre-right + Le Pen will veto it, can't have a Le Pen PM because everyone else will veto it, can't have one from Macron's party because both left and right will veto it. That only leaves someone from one of the minor parties, so the trick is to find someone sufficiently inoffensive to everyone. The other option is that France becomes ungovernable because no-one can agree on a PM. Or there’s a sixth republic |
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5 Sep
8:11pm, 5 Sep 2024
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Fields
The NF will like Barnier as he wanted to ban all immigration into France - including family reunions politico.eu Sounds like he could start up the French branch of Reform |
5 Sep
10:05pm, 5 Sep 2024
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3M
Cerrertonia wrote: paulcook wrote:Macron done a deal with the fascists, non? Interesting situation, three roughly equal sized blocs, almost like a Mexican standoff. New PM needs half of MPs to not vote against the appointment. Can't have a left-wing PM because Macron's lot + centre-right + Le Pen will veto it, can't have a Le Pen PM because everyone else will veto it, can't have one from Macron's party because both left and right will veto it. That only leaves someone from one of the minor parties, so the trick is to find someone sufficiently inoffensive to everyone. The other option is that France becomes ungovernable because no-one can agree on a PM. Isn't that called. "politics", the art of the possible? It'll be interesting to see whether the French parliament reaches any decisions in the next few years, whether M. Barnier manages to actually "stamp his authority" on things, or whether he manages to achieve some stuff by ensuring the various groups collaborate (or even play nicely!). |
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5 Sep
10:08pm, 5 Sep 2024
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3M
As to whether private sector "rewards" are better than the public sector ones, there's probably a good case for looking at an average "lifetime income" sort of figure - saLary whilst working plus pension income during retirement. Obviously whether you think you're getting enough of either depends on you, your lifestyle, and your commitments at any given point in your life. |
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10:09pm, 5 Sep 2024
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3M
Pothunter wrote: Fields wrote:Democracy is a sham What would you suggest as an alternative, @Fields? |
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