5 Sep
10:19pm, 5 Sep 2024
22,089 posts
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Chrisull
Don't see why Macron can't endorse the left wing/socialist/green choice Lucie Castets. I mean they (the left) practically hobbled themselves , saying IF he endorsed her they wouldn't seek any other posts. (yes it was brinksmanship, but really Macron could have called their bluff) Wasn't the previous PM but one leftish leaning anyway? Macron deserves all the crap that's coming his way). Barnier is an absolute unelected joke. A narrow majority voted for left/socialist /green alliance. But they get a right wing, moving far right to appease the Fronte Nationales, failed tosser that no-one has much love for either in France (or Britain). Democracy is currently dead in France, and Le Pen must be rubbing her hands.
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5 Sep
11:00pm, 5 Sep 2024
6,359 posts
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paulcook
30p Lee on Twitter: "We have British charities in Calais encouraging these migrants to their camps where they ... learn them to speak English." Unfortunately he's deleted it as far as I can see. Perhaps he should join them though. |
6 Sep
6:43am, 6 Sep 2024
11,595 posts
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Fields
3M wrote: Pothunter wrote:Fields wrote:Democracy is a sham What would you suggest as an alternative, @Fields? Well if the product of a vote by the people is just Macron chooses who he wants anyway then there’s a democratic deficit and too much power concentrated in one person - le president The fifth republic was set up by CDG though from memory just after the Algiers crisis so go figure. Then again France is still clinging to its empire even worse than this country - eg in New Caledonia - so what’s new |
6 Sep
6:50am, 6 Sep 2024
33,044 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I think some politicians are driven by what they hate and who they blame. They are fundamentally incapable of working from a wider platform based on political philosophy, core principles and solution-based government. It's all reduced to who I hate, who you hate, who we blame and what I would do to them on your behalf. 30p is one of those.
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6 Sep
7:40am, 6 Sep 2024
27,360 posts
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Bazoaxe
Jenrick on sky just now. I find it hard to believe anyone wants him to lead their party, far less the country.
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6 Sep
7:45am, 6 Sep 2024
33,047 posts
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Johnny Blaze
He's a funny old duck, but their "talent pool" is naught but a puddle now. A puddle filled with gasping, flapping, floundering ideologues, sociopaths and halfwits. Sad! |
6 Sep
8:05am, 6 Sep 2024
17,756 posts
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jda
There’s just nothing there. Intellectual bankruptcy was reached a while back, masked with the trappings of power and the distractions of daily events. Now laid bare. |
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6 Sep
9:07am, 6 Sep 2024
33,049 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I think it will take an exceptional leader to get them back to electability with one hand whilst luring Farage voters back with the other. Can't see it being one of the current crop. The Tories went through 3 leaders before settling on Cameron and even he didn't exactly sweep the board. It may take them a few iterations yet, assuming Labour don't balls it up completely.
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6 Sep
9:23am, 6 Sep 2024
6,361 posts
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paulcook
Fields wrote: Then again France is still clinging to its empire even worse than this country - eg in New Caledonia - so what’s new That's without France still clinging on even moreso economically to its empire in Africa with drastic effects. Though that's an entire different debate. |
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6 Sep
9:24am, 6 Sep 2024
6,362 posts
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paulcook
Bazoaxe wrote: Jenrick on sky just now. I find it hard to believe anyone wants him to lead their party, far less the country. Someone called him the British JD Vance the other day. |
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