2 Aug
10:15pm, 2 Aug 2024
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paulcook
You raise a valid point though!
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2 Aug
10:24pm, 2 Aug 2024
22,828 posts
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rf_fozzy
Never sure whether counter protests are a good idea or not.
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2 Aug
10:29pm, 2 Aug 2024
50,601 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Sorry, not getting the connection. What has he got to do with EDL / racists rioting?
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2 Aug
10:33pm, 2 Aug 2024
22,829 posts
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rf_fozzy
Musk has been retweeting/amplifying a number of far right figures and disinformation regarding the Southport murder cases - including Stephen Yaxley-Lennon - over the past days. A trend which has only been growing since his increasing radicalisation to the far right since he bought Twitter. |
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2 Aug
10:39pm, 2 Aug 2024
6,055 posts
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paulcook
Said it better than I was trying. Twitter (or X) has provably shifted to the right since he took over. |
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2 Aug
10:41pm, 2 Aug 2024
6,056 posts
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paulcook
rf_fozzy wrote: Never sure whether counter protests are a good idea or not. I've probably seen arguments for and against this in the past. Tonight, I think proves counter-protests have worked. Sunderland is on fire, Liverpool the counter-protestors have had the upper hand. |
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2 Aug
10:47pm, 2 Aug 2024
22,830 posts
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rf_fozzy
Isabel Oakeshott's tweet about her "visit" to Leeds today would be funny if not for what she is trying to do. I hate to tell her that that's what most of the backstreets in the terraced areas of Leeds look like. The ones in Hyde Park where they are mostly student houses used to be the worst... |
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2 Aug
10:52pm, 2 Aug 2024
22,831 posts
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rf_fozzy
paulcook wrote: rf_fozzy wrote:Never sure whether counter protests are a good idea or not. I've probably seen arguments for and against this in the past. Tonight, I think proves counter-protests have worked. Sunderland is on fire, Liverpool the counter-protestors have had the upper hand. The way I look at it is that if there's a counter protest, you are putting yourself in the line of fire for a group of angry thugs - property is property and can be repaired if damaged and if it's that or get a brick to your head, I know which I'm choosing. And in some circumstances, the presence of the counter protest is what sets some of the angrier nutters off. Plus the police have to not only police the potentially violent thugs, but also the counter-protestors and in any large group of people you are going to get some who take things too far and that's when things get out of hand. I understand the point, but I'm not sure it's necessarily a good idea. But then I'm not a big one for attending protest marches and similar anyway, because I tend to see them as performative rather than driving real change at the root cause (I don't like performative nonsense in general). |
2 Aug
11:44pm, 2 Aug 2024
32,890 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Good points. But people feel they need to take a stand. Mass protests can make a difference because they change the centre of gravity of a debate.
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3 Aug
7:29am, 3 Aug 2024
28,771 posts
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richmac
Wonder if the people rioting to make their point suddenly have found empathy worth JSO's antics, assuming they didn't already.
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