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6:28am, 9 Jul 2024
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Big_G
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9 Jul
7:03am, 9 Jul 2024
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richmac
I think their is significant grounds for reform to investigated and required to prove all their candidates exist.

If they have nothing to hide right?

And if they are actual people, given our FPTP system, we need a discussion on the morality of paper candidates.
9 Jul
7:12am, 9 Jul 2024
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Dave W
Occasionally spammers post on forums here, @Yakima Canutt

Fetch put that reporting system in place so it could be done quickly, rather than having to f-mail him. And the poster can't see it.
jda
9 Jul
8:06am, 9 Jul 2024
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jda
Why is the morality of paper candidates suddenly a thing when it’s been common practice for ever?
9 Jul
8:11am, 9 Jul 2024
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Dave W
It's the hypocrisy of it, JDA. Need to jump through hoops to vote, but pretty slack on the candidates front.

400,000 disenfranchised in this last election, probably more. Ethnic minorities more likely to be unable to vote. Just what the Tories wanted. And yet, you can pretend to be standing for parliament just to get a national vote up. Not right.
9 Jul
8:42am, 9 Jul 2024
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larkim
Guardian article suggests that the furore about candidates not existing is OTT. Still worth pursuing and digging into, but suspect the boring reality is that they got valid people to sign the forms etc but they were paper candidates who never appeared in the constituencies.
9 Jul
8:45am, 9 Jul 2024
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Johnny Blaze
Our Green candidate specifically said he wasn't going to campaign.

It may be legal but paper candidates don't sit right. No idea how to change it though.
9 Jul
8:51am, 9 Jul 2024
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ThorntonRunner
Many years ago I was a paper candidate for the Lib Dems in a local election (the ward I lived in). From my point of view it gave Lib Dem voters the opportunity to register their support for the Lib Dems. It would also gife them a base rom whichto build in future elections. If by any chance I'd been elected I would have served as councillor and given it my all. Don't really see the issue with it.
9 Jul
8:56am, 9 Jul 2024
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larkim
I'm not that unhappy with the nomination process - candidate + agent, 10 voters signing up, all tied to the electoral register making legally binding signatures. It's not nothing. Plus £500 deposit. It could be faked, but it would be a significant risk and a high degree of collusion required.

Not sure that it parallels with the voter ID issue.
9 Jul
8:58am, 9 Jul 2024
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Cerrertonia
Fenners-Reborn wrote:Apparently the same person has been a Reform candidate in more than one seat at the same time.
Which is itself illegal. It's an offence to provide false information on nomination papers and it's an offence to stand in more than one constituency.

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