5 Jul
3:46pm, 5 Jul 2024
5,713 posts
|
paulcook
For all the noise about Reform winning 4 seats (might be 5 now I haven't seen) and 2nd in however many seats as was said above, in terms of comparing voter numbers, they only polled 200,000 more votes than UKIP did in 2015. Is it actually that groundbreaking a result for them?
|
5 Jul
3:53pm, 5 Jul 2024
5,420 posts
|
J2R
paulcook wrote: Is it actually that groundbreaking a result for them? No, but the current favoured narrative is all about the unstoppable rise of the far-right populists, so this is shoe-horned into that narrative. |
5 Jul
3:55pm, 5 Jul 2024
32,708 posts
|
Johnny Blaze
The Tories have to decide whether to beat them or join them. No idea how that one will play out. Could take a while…
|
5 Jul
4:02pm, 5 Jul 2024
50,390 posts
|
HappyG(rrr)
Some of us come from northern Scotland public boys school, Gordonstoun type stock, but can still claim to be socialist sympathisers. The school you went to doesn't necessarily determine the person or their morals?  G
|
5 Jul
4:02pm, 5 Jul 2024
22,626 posts
|
rf_fozzy
paulcook wrote: For all the noise about Reform winning 4 seats (might be 5 now I haven't seen) and 2nd in however many seats as was said above, in terms of comparing voter numbers, they only polled 200,000 more votes than UKIP did in 2015. Is it actually that groundbreaking a result for them? Weight for mortality and maybe. Depends where they are pulling from. Most likely older, Tories who voted Leave. But not necessarily. |
|
5 Jul
4:06pm, 5 Jul 2024
50,391 posts
|
HappyG(rrr)
When did NI last have a referendum (if ever) on rejoining a united Ireland? Does Sinn Fein being largest party in NI give them a mandate to ask for that?
|
|
5 Jul
4:06pm, 5 Jul 2024
22,627 posts
|
rf_fozzy
Also no surprises in cabinet appointments so far - which is good. People who have been shadowing roles for a number of years will get started quicker than people who have brand new briefs. Let's just hope the housing minister last more than 6months... |
|
5 Jul
4:07pm, 5 Jul 2024
22,628 posts
|
rf_fozzy
HappyG(rrr) wrote: When did NI last have a referendum (if ever) on rejoining a united Ireland? Does Sinn Fein being largest party in NI give them a mandate to ask for that? Can you think of a worse thing to happen for NI politics than a border poll at the moment?! |
5 Jul
4:07pm, 5 Jul 2024
21,374 posts
|
Cerrertonia
They ended up with fewer seats than the 'we're really quite cross about Gaza' people.
|
|
5 Jul
4:11pm, 5 Jul 2024
21,375 posts
|
Cerrertonia
HappyG(rrr) wrote: 1973, it was boycotted by the nationalist community. When did NI last have a referendum (if ever) on rejoining a united Ireland? Does Sinn Fein being largest party in NI give them a mandate to ask for that? The Northern Ireland Act of 1999 says that the secretary of state shall order a border poll “if at any time it appears likely to him that a majority of those voting would express a wish that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland”. The Good Friday Agreement says that there has to be a referendum in the Republic at the same time. I don't think it's the case that a majority would vote for it at the moment. |
Useful Links
FE accepts no responsibility for external links. Or anything, really.Related Threads
-
Fantasy General Election
Jul 2024
-
EU Referendum - In or Out? Vote here
Aug 2018
-
March to Parliament Against Brexit - Sat 2nd July
Jun 2016
-
EU Referendum
Feb 2016
-
Ads on Fetch - anyone else getting Leave and Remain?!
Feb 2017
-
The Environment Thread :-)
Oct 2024
-
Economics
Aug 2023
-
Dear Scottish Fetchies
Jan 2023
-
Any economists out there - question
Oct 2022
-
Power and exploitation - please check my sanity
Oct 2018
