Nov 2022
6:44pm, 19 Nov 2022
7,524 posts
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Fields
Two thoughts. If Starmer continues to say more or less the same as the tories and be an empty suit he will get monstered in any TV debate; and polls will close. Sure Kief hates anything to do with Corbyn but Jezza had a lot of popular policies and he shouldn’t wash his hands of them |
Nov 2022
6:57pm, 19 Nov 2022
761 posts
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OverTheHillToo
Starmer has ample supply of quality policies that differentiate him from the scum currently in 'power'.
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Nov 2022
7:52pm, 19 Nov 2022
2,079 posts
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paulcook
Two thoughts. If Starmer continues to say more or less the same as the tories and be an empty suit he will get monstered in any TV debate; and polls will close. Sure Kief hates anything to do with Corbyn but Jezza had a lot of popular policies and he shouldn’t wash his hands of them I’m taking it with a pinch of salt, a huge one, but after Rachel Reeves basically poured utter scorn on Corbyn’s 2019 manifesto this week, I saw a poll this week that Labour voters still favoured Corbyn more than Blair, Starmer and one other Labour person, possibly Miliband but I can’t remember it being him. |
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Nov 2022
7:55pm, 19 Nov 2022
2,080 posts
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paulcook
Starmer has ample supply of quality policies that differentiate him from the scum currently in 'power'. That’s not necessarily saying much. The current scum in power are so much more to the right than a normal Tory party. So filling anything to the left of that could be nearly anything. |
Nov 2022
8:03pm, 19 Nov 2022
38,945 posts
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SPR
Well Sadiq Khan is clear twitter.com I accept he has an easier job as London mayor given London was clear remain. |
Nov 2022
8:04pm, 19 Nov 2022
28,926 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I like Sadie although I sometimes have difficulty getting over the fact that he helped give Labour Jeremy Corbyn.
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Nov 2022
8:05pm, 19 Nov 2022
28,927 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Sadiq not Sadie, although Sadie Khan is a cool name.
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Nov 2022
8:40pm, 19 Nov 2022
2,558 posts
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Canute
While I am disappointed that Labour is failing to get their message regarding their genuinely left-oriented green polices across, I also recognise that they face several huge challenges: not only scepticism from BBC interviewers, but also condemnation from traditional Labour supporters who do not accept Starmer’s view that the best way for Labour to implement left-orientated polices is to win the next General Election. To win the next GE it is important for labour to avoid unnecessary alienation of potential supporters. That requires sensible balance between a principled appeal to traditional Labour voters and a principled appeal to the centre. However, at present I think they are being too timid in their wish to avoid upsetting Red Wall constituents who were seduced by Johnson’s dishonest Brexit rhetoric in 2019. There are many things that Labour could focus on: support for upgraded East-West rail links in the North and Midlands; more support for insulation of houses; clearer illustrations of how the proposed ‘Green Energy’ company could bring jobs to the North. I am also disappointed by Starmer’s apparent tin ear regarding Scottish issues, and needless statements regarding Brexit. However, these faux pas are trivial compared with the big issues, especially climate change and the need for left-orieted green policies. |
Nov 2022
8:58pm, 19 Nov 2022
58,056 posts
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LindsD
Sadiq's tweet is no longer there
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Nov 2022
9:00pm, 19 Nov 2022
19,666 posts
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larkim
I can still see it?
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