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Feb 2020
8:56am, 19 Feb 2020
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DeeGee
This will be of great benefit to Brexit-loving Lincolnshire and its 14,746 unemployed, as they can all happily go into the fields and food factories and do the unskilled and low-skilled jobs that they had stolen from them by the Polish and Lithuanian migrants.

The same jobs that they could always have applied to do before but they didn't fancy either the work, wages or the need to travel to a nearby farm while Jeremy Kyle was on.

The English will have to do the work that they refused to do for the original wages, as I suspect this government use the abundance of unskilled jobs to force people off Universal Credit and into the fields, which I wouldn't put past them.

Well done, you got your control, you got your jobs, now let's see you do them...
Feb 2020
9:28am, 19 Feb 2020
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Wriggling Snake
I would imagine the 25k threshld will have a downward pressure on salaries too, why pay more when you can import the skill at 25k.
Feb 2020
9:31am, 19 Feb 2020
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Wriggling Snake
I think hospitality isn't just a problem for Scotland, I think there are quite a few hotels/bars restaurants outside of Scotland, I would also imagine that that and farming is where the policy will rely on exceptions, and actually be pretty meaningless in terms of numbers.
Feb 2020
9:46am, 19 Feb 2020
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DeeGee
Fag-packet maths. 40,000 tourism jobs in Lincolnshire. 25% (according to a KPMG estimate) are EU migrants, that's 10,000 vacant jobs if the EU migrants aren't employed in tourism.

75000 people are employed in Agri-food in Lincolnshire, c.30% (CBI estimate) are EU migrant, so that's 20,000 ish go vacant.

14,746 unemployed in Lincolnshire. Giving us a shortfall of over 15k unskilled workers. In Lincolnshire alone. And that's not taking account of the hundreds employed in retail, or office support, or as mechanics...
Feb 2020
11:17am, 19 Feb 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
I'm sure it isn't *just* a problem for Scotland WS. But Scotland is the bit I know, and is my back yard, as it were!

Just saying "Brexit is and will continue to be bad for the whole country" doesn't seem to be very popular, so I was trying to be specific with a specific business sector and geography. But as DG says, it applies in many other sectors, and as you both say, many other regions.

I'll just go back to simplism! Brexit is bad! :-) G
jda
Feb 2020
12:06pm, 19 Feb 2020
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jda
The whole thing is just a heap of fucking nonsense from start to finish. When you explain to brexiters that FoM is a reciprocal thing and that immigrants have to be able to support themselves to come, they mostly think it's a pretty good idea anyway.

What a clusterfuck, stoking up xenophobic lies purely for the sake of a power grab, then fucking up the country (including, destroying opportunities for those who were too young to vote on their futures) as a result.
Feb 2020
12:13pm, 19 Feb 2020
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Wriggling Snake
I see you have to speak english at the required level and plasters are now classed as skilled, quite rightly so. Bish Bash Bosh.

I spoke to my dad about this today. He said if it is fuck up at least it is our fuck up. Brexit. Nutshell.
Feb 2020
12:27pm, 19 Feb 2020
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macca 53
We now have Schrodingers unemployed as well:

Patel: 8 million people between 16-64 are economically inactive which is 20% of the available workforce

Sajid Javid said: "There's talent up and down this country - three-quarters of employment growth in the last year has been outside London and the South East”. Our unemployment rate is down to 3.8% according to ONS figures.
Feb 2020
12:35pm, 19 Feb 2020
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Raemond
ahhh, but 'unemployment' is so tightly (and, dare I say misleadingly,) defined for government statistical purposes that it specifically excludes the economically inactive and the underemployed.

Of course the reasons for being economically inactive, like being a student, unpaid carer, or unable to work, are completely irrelevant. It's not like of them could possibly be valid - that's why so many of them die disappear in a puff of logic when booted off universal credit.
Feb 2020
12:40pm, 19 Feb 2020
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ThorntonRunner
Err. I thought 16-18 year old were generally in full time education, and half of 18-21 year old are at university, so tend to be economically inactive?

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