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Nov 2019
11:20am, 1 Nov 2019
15,438 posts
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Chrisull
No Leave alliance. Well.
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Nov 2019
11:22am, 1 Nov 2019
32,996 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
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Nov 2019
11:28am, 1 Nov 2019
19,892 posts
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TRO Saracen
We’ve yet to see what the defining moment or theme of this campaign is.
They’ll be a blunder (think Ed Stone, Kinnocks rally) or a message that slices through the noise (‘weak and wobbly’, 24 hours to save the NHS, labour wrecked the economy etc) which will set the tone.
May was cruising a week in, Corbyn was getting tap for campaigning only in safe seats and everyone was guessing whether May would get 100, 150 or 200 majority. IIRC there was one tweet from Osbourne of all people, ‘weak and wobbly’, and pile on attacking May developed which never abated and changed everything.
All to play for - it’s not even started yet.
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Nov 2019
11:31am, 1 Nov 2019
15,439 posts
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Chrisull
G - Farage has just announced that unless Johnson drops the deal, he will contest every seat. Johnson cannot drop the deal, not possible.
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Nov 2019
11:32am, 1 Nov 2019
15,440 posts
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Chrisull
TRO - chance we've already had the definining moment... Trump phoning up Farage, but we won't know yet.
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Nov 2019
11:35am, 1 Nov 2019
32,997 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
TRO, good point.
Chris, I actually I assumed that's what you'd read/heard, but just wanted detail. Cheers! Don't think it will make a hill o beans. Farage sniping from sidelines, "Your Brexit isn't Brexity enough" will actually help Johnson in some ways saying "See, our Brexit is a good, compromise Brexit. Best we can get. No one can get better. What does Corrr-bin think he can do? Dithering" etc.
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Nov 2019
11:36am, 1 Nov 2019
32,998 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Chris, TRO is right, attention span is about 48 hours nowadays. People will have moved on to next excitement in hours. Unless something keeps getting "refreshed" in social media.
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Nov 2019
11:37am, 1 Nov 2019
18,936 posts
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DeeGee
This potentially spells the end of no Deal, then?
Four positions on Brexit in England at least. No Deal (BP); Deal (C), Revoke (LD) and negotiate a different deal, put it to the people and campaign against it (Lab)
BP won't win anything of any use to them, nor will the Lib Dems.
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Nov 2019
11:44am, 1 Nov 2019
32,999 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
DG, what about same again - Cons win GE, majority of 1, a couple of Cons folk rebel against Deal (cos it's pretty sh*t, or cos their granny lives in NI, or because they see it killing car industry or something else specific to their constituency), Deal is delay, Johnson pushes through No Deal, cos he can, somehow?!
I still fear No Deal, like I fear the Boogeyman!  G
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Nov 2019
11:45am, 1 Nov 2019
34,766 posts
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Hills of Death (HOD)
There was some right propaganda online about 500 billion of something being paid to EU as a leaving present if we didn't go No deal as EU zone will go into melt down etc etc
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