Nov 2019
5:02pm, 1 Nov 2019
33,008 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
How do you work that one out Zorbs?
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Nov 2019
7:41pm, 1 Nov 2019
15,549 posts
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Bazoaxe
HG, its a tough old choice. Labour here went bust before they did in England. The Tories are the tories, but under Davidson seemed almost votable for. Only almost. Lib Dems dubious at best and any vote for SNP gives them mandate to demand a referendum. Then theres the greens who supported the SNP independence based on there being oil. Not very green !
And here is me brought up with the belief that you have a vote for a reason and you use it. I dont even have screaming lord sutch to consider
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Nov 2019
8:52pm, 1 Nov 2019
10,022 posts
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Markymarkmark
I think you need the Australian option on the ballot paper too Bazo. "None of the above".
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Nov 2019
9:00pm, 1 Nov 2019
5,784 posts
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jda
The perennial problem with an "almost votable" Tory is that however relatable and reasonable they might seem, they still obey the whip 99% of the time and vote for whatever extremist rabid nonsense is current party policy. Ruth Davidson included.
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Nov 2019
9:16pm, 1 Nov 2019
6,874 posts
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Too Much Water
So, ignore personality, local representation and connection, vote blindly on party lines - after all its what politicians do anyway!
If only we could ask the people what they think and then enact their views instead eh?
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Nov 2019
9:26pm, 1 Nov 2019
5,785 posts
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jda
The chances of "the people" having a unitary view that is capable of being enacted are rather small, unfortunately. We could try asking a simple yes/no question on a clearly defined choice such as Bonson's WA but oddly enough the main advocates of that outcome don't seem to think the people should get offered such a choice.
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Nov 2019
11:25pm, 1 Nov 2019
15,444 posts
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Chrisull
Crikey - my earlier counter-intuitive point about the Brexit party absence helping Labour might be right:
Workington Voting Intention:
CON: 45% (+3) LAB: 34% (-17) BXP: 13% (+13) LDM: 5% (-2) GRN: 2% (+2)
Via
@Survation , 30-31 Oct. Changes w/ GE2017.
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Nov 2019
11:46pm, 1 Nov 2019
6,875 posts
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Too Much Water
Workington probably has a nuclear connection with Sellafield down the road, I’m not sure if that plant is a connection but backing a party in favour of more nuclear power may be the reason for a strong conservative account in polls?
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Nov 2019
6:36am, 2 Nov 2019
58,106 posts
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swittle
Re Sellafield: 'The site currently directly employs about 10,000 people. It is due to be fully decommissioned by 2120 at a cost of £121bn.' [Indep. 31.10.2018].
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Nov 2019
7:19am, 2 Nov 2019
733 posts
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Roberto
Workington is very much your typical labour town. And Corbyn came out at the last election and supported nuclear power (he is primarily against trident, if I recall correctly). Hayman had a near 10% majority last time and is actually an effective MP for the area so not sure I trust that poll.
Allerdale, bordering workington, which in 2005 had a near 20% majority to labour, saw this decimated by Jamie Reed over the years (he could easily have been a tory and was actually offered the chance to defect to them) who constantly fought against labour policies. He caused a by election in 2017 which cons won the constituency for first time since 1930s. This was put down to nuclear interests (reed actually went on to be head of some department at sellafield).
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