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Oct 2019
2:31pm, 28 Oct 2019
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richmac
Why should the latest deadline be different to any of the other deadlines that have gone past and seen the UK still in the UK?
Oct 2019
2:37pm, 28 Oct 2019
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simbil
Because a General Election has a reasonable chance to change the composition of parliament so that it can get past the current deadlock.
jda
Oct 2019
2:40pm, 28 Oct 2019
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jda
I fully understand why you might be concerned by the prospect Bazo, but there's still a long way from lots of activists wanting something, to it actually happening. As we have learnt from watching labour's brexit policy over the past few years.

BTW round about now I'd like to think that people might be starting to downgrade their confidence in politicians and pundits of all stripes who have been robustly and repeatedly wrong in their brexit predictions over the last 3 years. Surely at some point it's time to draw the conclusion that these people don't have much insight or skill.
Oct 2019
3:14pm, 28 Oct 2019
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DeeGee
Is that "we've all had enough of experts?", jda?
jda
Oct 2019
3:25pm, 28 Oct 2019
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jda
No, it's that you have to judge people based on their performance.

I remember reading a while ago about some research (however my memory may be wrong) showing that people preferred pundits who pandered to their prejudices over those who actually got stuff right. Most people would rather stay in a fog of comfortable ignorance than learn stuff.

Expertise is measured by getting stuff right, not by the number of clicks on your op-eds and likes on your tweets.
Oct 2019
3:37pm, 28 Oct 2019
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run free
Jda does Trump know that??!
Oct 2019
3:40pm, 28 Oct 2019
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larkim
Latest probably unsurprising news is that govt will table a bill identical to the Lib Dems / SNP proposal on Tuesday if Labour prevent the FTPA motion getting 75%, with no plans to tag on anything about getting the WAB through. So Boris finally admits defeat on getting the bill through before a GE it seems.

bbc.co.uk

"A No 10 source said the government would introduce a bill "almost identical" to the Lib Dem/SNP option on Tuesday if Labour voted their plan down later, and "we will have a pre-Christmas election anyway".

The Lib Dem/SNP plan does not include a new timetable for his legislation - the Withdrawal Agreement Bill.

They want the 9 December because it would not leave enough time for the bill to become law before Parliament is dissolved - which must happen a minimum of 25 working days before an election.

The BBC's political editor, Laura Kuenssberg, said it was not clear whether the government would stick to 9 December, which is a Monday, but the move implied ministers would "give up [an] attempt to get the bill through"."
Oct 2019
3:46pm, 28 Oct 2019
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HappyG(rrr)
That sounds like good news. So GE with *no* attempt to pass the bill. Cool.
Oct 2019
3:47pm, 28 Oct 2019
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HappyG(rrr)
Please find an Elvis Presley or someone else equally charismatic to take over the Labour party and lead us out of Tory Temptation and Deliver Us from Brexit, for Thine is the Parliament, the Power and the Democracy For Ever and Ever...
jda
Oct 2019
3:49pm, 28 Oct 2019
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jda
timharford.com

Isn't quite what I was thinking of but it's close. Practicing forecasting where you explicitly assign probabilities to outcomes (rather than just asserting "X is going to happen") results in better performance over the long term.

I've used betting as a means to challenge people to reconsider their beliefs more carefully, and find that it's a useful discipline to help clarify opinions.

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