Sep 2019
8:14am, 27 Sep 2019
2,321 posts
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Fellrunning
I see that the telegraph is attempting to cool things down by threatening riots....
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Sep 2019
8:34am, 27 Sep 2019
5,302 posts
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jda
The Times is more explicit.
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Sep 2019
8:48am, 27 Sep 2019
3,343 posts
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Raemond
Some good points raised here, I think theguardian.com there is still some hope, maybe, that this abominable shitshow clusterfuck might prove to be a catalyst for much needed change in the way we all 'do' politics in the UK. |
Sep 2019
9:03am, 27 Sep 2019
8,187 posts
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simbil
Looks like there are 3 credible strategies the gov could take to ignore the Benn bill. Noises from the EU are that a new deal is miles away and so no deal is looking like the likely outcome. Opposition needs to act to either get control via a caretaker gov or force Bojo to extend now. |
Sep 2019
9:40am, 27 Sep 2019
32,498 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
I've just seen the John Major one about "suspending an act". Wtf? How can the gov't just suspend a law? It's like The Purge. "For this weekend only we are suspending the law of murder, so we can have a bit of a cull of people we don't like. See on Monday. Well, some of you...!"  What are other two simbil? Terrify me! G
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Sep 2019
9:46am, 27 Sep 2019
5,303 posts
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jda
Lots of people inventing desperate theories to explain how Bonson can simultaneously promise both to obey the law and that we are leaving on 31st regardless. It’s all just guff.
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Sep 2019
9:49am, 27 Sep 2019
32,499 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
JDA, the one that John Major described seemed to be an official technique. Not sure how that is guff. He was talking about it as if it could happen and saying that we should not "forgive or forget" if he did it. Not that it should be stopped from happening. Apparently it can be done by Gov't ministers (Privy Councillors, whatever they are) without recourse to parliament. Sounds credible to me. How is that guff? It's bad and scary, but sounds plausible? independent.co.uk |
Sep 2019
9:52am, 27 Sep 2019
12,611 posts
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Ultracat
Certainly is terrifying as echos from what happened in Germany in the 1930s seems to be returning. i.e ruling party has no overall majority and the ability of parliament to scrutinise the government is under threat, isn’t that what Hitler did and don’t forget them and us rhetoric
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Sep 2019
9:55am, 27 Sep 2019
5,304 posts
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jda
Debunked on twitter within hours. You just have to follow the right people (*) and keep up with the whiplash. Of course it's completely unreasonable that we should have to do this, the whole point of a representative democracy is that we elect people to deal with all this complicated stuff without having to delve into the weeds ourselves. But if you want to actually work out what is going on and have the time and energy to look into it, it is quite possible for a layman to follow. * David Allen Green and Joylon Maugham are a good place to start. Being able to judge who knows what they are talking about and who is a loudmouth blowhard is a useful skill. Decades of debating climate science with the latter was useful for something it seems
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Sep 2019
10:03am, 27 Sep 2019
32,500 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
OK, that's good news. Thanks for clarifying. I feel old, things seem to move very quickly. Never mind a printed newspaper being out of date by the next morning, a google search returning items from yesterday afternoon is out of date! G
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