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Sep 2019
11:36am, 26 Sep 2019
15,273 posts
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Chrisull
implied
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Sep 2019
11:38am, 26 Sep 2019
16,089 posts
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Stander
Destroying jobs you say JDA?
Forgive the facts getting in the way here, but we are currently enjoying the greatest level of employment ever in this country history.
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Sep 2019
11:39am, 26 Sep 2019
15,274 posts
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Chrisull
stander - your side introduced it! You can't then accuse our side of game playing if it suddenly works in our advantage?
Quick football analogy. A game between two pub teams. You introduce a new rule that says you can pick up the ball and throw it in the net. Both teams players vote on it. A narrow majority says we will go with it. The other team grumble but then they pick up the ball and score with it. Then the first team cries foul....
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Sep 2019
11:40am, 26 Sep 2019
34,462 posts
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Derby Tup
And the quality of these jobs in terms of security etc is?
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Sep 2019
11:40am, 26 Sep 2019
15,275 posts
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Chrisull
Zero hours jobs.... wages until this year that had been stagnant since 2008. Excellent.
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Sep 2019
11:42am, 26 Sep 2019
8,790 posts
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larkim
The ruling elite? You mean people like Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Gove, Raab et al? Because you can't surely mean the Corbyn front bench? I can't see how anyone can paint Johnson as the radical counter-point to the concept of a "ruling elite" political class when he is self evidently one of the most egregious examples of someone who believes he is entitled to exercise power over the great unwashed!!!
When the "ruling elite" is referred to, it feels to me that that is a proxy for saying "intelligent people who are well informed in a way that the general public are not, and should not be expected to be". I for one would much rather have a "ruling elite" than a country run on the basis of gut feel, populism and lowest common denominator self interest.
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Sep 2019
11:46am, 26 Sep 2019
16,090 posts
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Stander
Chris - I don't agree 100% with everything "my side" does. I hope to god that those on the other side don't either.
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Sep 2019
11:49am, 26 Sep 2019
5,290 posts
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jda
It's the no deal brexit that will destroy jobs. It's hardly a controversial opinion, it is the deliberate plan of the only economist who actually supports leaving the EU.
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Sep 2019
11:51am, 26 Sep 2019
5,291 posts
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jda
Of course the opposition wants an election, they just don't want to get it tangled up in the Oct 31st deadline.
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Sep 2019
11:52am, 26 Sep 2019
16,091 posts
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Stander
There is no doubt that zero hours contract attract - by and large - negative press.
There is also no doubt that some big companies with well paid lawyers exploit the benefits (to their company) of zero hours contracts.
However, I spent nearly five years with a charity that provides desperately needed respite care for disabled children. where zero hours contracts no only worked for the charity but worked also for the staff on them. (In simple terms, a great deal more staff where used during school breaks and holidays and many staff were university students so this arrangement worked really well for both sides)
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