Nov 2021
10:47am, 20 Nov 2021
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FenlandRunner
Question for CanuteGobi....
One of Noakes's suggested guidelines, if I recall correctly, is to max out performance at a certain mileage level (per week) before increasing miles per week. What are your thoughts on this guidance?
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Nov 2021
10:54am, 20 Nov 2021
75,189 posts
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Gobi
The plateau approach
I have used this
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Nov 2021
10:55am, 20 Nov 2021
7,333 posts
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FenlandRunner
This is a slightly me, me, me question, as I'm starting out again with the intentions of getting faster over 5km, and at the moment my mileage per week is paltry but I am seeing improvements.....
Thanks Gobi for the swift reply.
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Nov 2021
11:14am, 20 Nov 2021
493 posts
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Bowman
The plateau approach, I googled a bit, but found nothing. What is the belief about this?
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Nov 2021
2:18pm, 20 Nov 2021
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Canute
I think the question of when to increase weekly mileage depends on the phase of training.
During base building, I think that minimizing risk of injury or over-training are the major factors determining rate of build-up of volume. Once you have adapted well to a particular training volume (indicated by sense of well-being, perhaps augmented by heart measures such a resting HR) you can increase weekly volume. Perhaps the peak training volume that you are aiming for during base-building can be adjusted according to your goal. (Though Lydiard recommended about 100 mpw for base-building for both middle and long distance, for young runners. i.e. not veterans). However if your goal is a 5K, maybe you do not need such a high volume during base-building.
If you are not following a periodized approach with separate base-building and competitive phases, it makes some sense to do a build up to a plateau where performance is stable. Then increase in training volume before the next set of performance tests.
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Nov 2021
2:44pm, 20 Nov 2021
7,338 posts
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FenlandRunner
Thanks Canute, that makes perfect sense.
Personally, being the wrong side of 55. I'm trying to have plenty of non-impact days per week, but those non-impact days are not rest days but allocated for strength work.
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Nov 2021
2:51pm, 20 Nov 2021
497 posts
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Bowman
I’m a little to unstructured to have a definite mpw, I’m above 40km as a absolute minimum, but aiming for 65-70km But I can be anywhere in between depending on how fatigued I’m feeling. So I more look at the average over longer time. And trying to increase slowly. How fixed are you guys on mpw?
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Nov 2021
3:15pm, 20 Nov 2021
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Canute
As a recreational runner, you should adapt according to your available time and goals. It would not be wise for a recreational athlete to let training totally dominate his/her life. A professional should generally aim for a consistent programme. Even for a professional, it is probably best to include some planned cut-back weeks.
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Nov 2021
8:37pm, 20 Nov 2021
75,190 posts
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Gobi
Bowman
Logic is simple
You have 40 miles a week and through smart training you use them until you stop improving , at that point you add mileage.
Taking it further
I have proved that you can do NO SPEED WORK and use this principle
Ie 40 miles a week in z1/2 and 5km test every 4th week.
When you plateau you ask a question
Do I have more time ? If yes stay in z2 add miles and repeat the process
If No, add a single piece of speed each week and repeat process until plateau and repeat etc...
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Nov 2021
8:54pm, 20 Nov 2021
7,343 posts
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FenlandRunner
Great post, Gobi. Thanks for sharing.
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