Polarized training

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May 2022
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Bowman 🇸🇪
Maybe an improved feature that will be interesting?
Checkout fetcheveryone.com/featurevoting

And feature 1433
SPR
May 2022
9:37am, 23 May 2022
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SPR
Which feature are you talking about? Re 1433 I'm not convinced a feature for a small subset of people should be set for everyone. HR zones are configurable so you can set zones that do what you want.
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Bowman 🇸🇪
Yes, i meant not to have to add yourself from the different HR zones in some way.
Ie a calculation of those zones you have sat in some way. Some people maybe don't care, but those who do probably benefit the possible overview
SPR
May 2022
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SPR
You could probably just set two zones as you want (set the rest below or above your max so they're always zero). It doesn't really make much sense to do a load of work to add a new zone split for just a small number of people when what's there already works.
SPR
May 2022
10:00am, 23 May 2022
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Tested and it works. Using the top two zones.
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Bowman 🇸🇪
Yes ok, thanks SPR, sounds reasonable.
SPR
May 2022
10:03am, 23 May 2022
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...and if you want the colour coding to be distinct, you simply choose a lower zone and then set the middle zones as the same upper limit before using a higher zone for the last zone.
SPR
May 2022
10:09am, 23 May 2022
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SPR
Here's what I did.

May 2022
10:17am, 23 May 2022
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Bowman 🇸🇪
I didn't really get there yet, im kinda stupid, but i'll try to get the setting right, it's really nice and what i was wanting to do! :)
SPR
May 2022
11:17am, 23 May 2022
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SPR
It got me to review my zones as well. If you're still struggling later, I can do a screenshot of how the settings look to get what I got.

About This Thread

Maintained by Canute
Polarised training is a form of training that places emphasis on the two extremes of intensity. There is a large amount of low intensity training (comfortably below lactate threshold) and an appreciable minority of high intensity training (above LT).

Polarised training does also include some training near lactate threshold, but the amount of threshold training is modest, in contrast to the relatively high proportion of threshold running that is popular among some recreational runners.

Polarised training is not new. It has been used for many years by many elites and some recreational runners. However, it has attracted great interest in recent years for two reasons.

First, detailed reviews of the training of many elite endurance athletes confirms that they employ a polarised approach (typically 80% low intensity, 10% threshold and 10% high intensity. )

Secondly, several scientific studies have demonstrated that for well trained athletes who have reached a plateau of performance, polarised training produces greater gains in fitness and performance, than other forms of training such as threshold training on the one hand, or high volume, low intensity training on the other.

Much of the this evidence was reviewed by Stephen Seiler in a lecture delivered in Paris in 2013 .
vimeo.com

In case you cannot access that lecture by Seiler in 2013, here is a link to his more recent TED talk.

ted.com
This has less technical detail than his 2013 talk, but is nonetheless a very good introduction to the topic. It should be noted that from the historical perspective, Seiler shows a US bias.

Here is another useful video by Stephen Seiler in which he discusses the question of the optimum intensity and duration of low intensity sessions. Although the answer ‘depends on circumstances’ he proposes that a low intensity session should be long enough to reach the point where there are detectable indications of rising stress (either the beginning of upwards drift of HR or increased in perceived effort). If longer than this, there is increasing risk of damaging effects. A session shorter than this might not be enough to produce enough stress to achieve a useful training effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXc474Hu5U


The coach who probably deserves the greatest credit for emphasis on the value of low intensity training was Arthur Lydiard, who coached some of the great New Zealanders in the 1960's and Scandinavians in the 1970’s. One of his catch-phrases was 'train, don't strain'. However Lydiard never made it really clear what he meant by ‘quarter effort’. I have discussed Lydiard’s ideas on several occasions on my Wordpress blog. For example: canute1.wordpress.com

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