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Polarized training

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Im struggling SPR :)
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This is using android chrome but the controls are sometimes unresponsive on there (for me anyway) so might be better to use a desktop browser if you can.

This should result in one red zone and one green zone, follow the same principle if you want three zones instead of two. Resting HR doesn't need to be zero either.

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Ok, i got it to work, and it's so much more useful for me, at least as i now differ between easy and hard, and not in 5 zones increments, interesting!
But it's kinda strange to get it to work, since in certain settings the sliders moves with the other, tried to get other color and so on, and maybe i want a 3 one, but i keep fiddling around :)
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So once again... :)
So up to 75% of MHR is in the 80% low training maybe, or how do you guys set it up?
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I'm not sure, garmins zones sets me at up to 80% of MHR in zone 2?
it's not rocket science, but i struggling to sort out where my threshold should be.
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I need do do some improvements with my pace...
The gray one should be like 80 % of the whole.

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Are you saying the data says you're running too fast or that you've not been able to configure the zones properly?
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The data is saying i'm running to fast/hard to often :) Even more than i thought :)
Also it has not become better, even though i thought i lowered my HR more often since a few month.
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You knew that already, Bowman ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Lol Vrap.

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Polarised training is a form of training that places emphasis on the two extremes of intensity. There is a large amount of low intensity training (comfortably below lactate threshold) and an appreciable minority of high intensity training (above LT).

Polarised training does also include some training near lactate threshold, but the amount of threshold training is modest, in contrast to the relatively high proportion of threshold running that is popular among some recreational runners.

Polarised training is not new. It has been used for many years by many elites and some recreational runners. However, it has attracted great interest in recent years for two reasons.

First, detailed reviews of the training of many elite endurance athletes confirms that they employ a polarised approach (typically 80% low intensity, 10% threshold and 10% high intensity. )

Secondly, several scientific studies have demonstrated that for well trained athletes who have reached a plateau of performance, polarised training produces greater gains in fitness and performance, than other forms of training such as threshold training on the one hand, or high volume, low intensity training on the other.

Much of the this evidence was reviewed by Stephen Seiler in a lecture delivered in Paris in 2013 .
vimeo.com

In case you cannot access that lecture by Seiler in 2013, here is a link to his more recent TED talk.

ted.com
This has less technical detail than his 2013 talk, but is nonetheless a very good introduction to the topic. It should be noted that from the historical perspective, Seiler shows a US bias.

Here is another useful video by Stephen Seiler in which he discusses the question of the optimum intensity and duration of low intensity sessions. Although the answer โ€˜depends on circumstancesโ€™ he proposes that a low intensity session should be long enough to reach the point where there are detectable indications of rising stress (either the beginning of upwards drift of HR or increased in perceived effort). If longer than this, there is increasing risk of damaging effects. A session shorter than this might not be enough to produce enough stress to achieve a useful training effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXc474Hu5U


The coach who probably deserves the greatest credit for emphasis on the value of low intensity training was Arthur Lydiard, who coached some of the great New Zealanders in the 1960's and Scandinavians in the 1970โ€™s. One of his catch-phrases was 'train, don't strain'. However Lydiard never made it really clear what he meant by โ€˜quarter effortโ€™. I have discussed Lydiardโ€™s ideas on several occasions on my Wordpress blog. For example: canute1.wordpress.com
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