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larkim 6 Feb 12:36pm, 6 Feb 2025 26,571 posts	Quote Pin larkim Are you able to give yourself a good reason why you're not wanting to go particularly hard? Is it an apprehension that if you try and you're not getting the results you want that it will demotivate you? (I empathise!) I can't see how the odd "eyeballs out" parkrun would do anything harmful to disturb your training, but also agree with SPR that if it is a "psychological" reticence then finding an event where absolute pace is irrelevant can be helpful. The local road racing league round me has courses which are very rarely flat which can help with that (though the more of those I do, the more I am faced with a comparison to a race result time from a couple of years ago that doesn't help me feel I'm making progress!) XC does let me push the HR, but even there I get a good chunk of CBA when the going gets tough.
Brunski 6 Feb 12:41pm, 6 Feb 2025 2,522 posts	Quote Pin Brunski @larkim I could have written that. I guess it’s a little bit of psychological weakness along with a bit of me that likes trucking along telling myself I’m training really well and when I do race it might be a bit special 😂. If it turns out that I have a bad run when I’ve built it up as a proper effort that might knock me a bit, so to avoid that potentially happening I kind of avoid it and run quite well at a parkrun telling myself I’m running with a bit in reserve.
Gobi 6 Feb 1:04pm, 6 Feb 2025 82,064 posts	Quote Pin Gobi remove the stress by A. Going to a parkrun that is just hard and not one that is measurable by PB numbers B. Run knackered but push Time becomes irrelevant and you can justify it not being full full gas by doing it already tired :¬)
larkim 6 Feb 1:10pm, 6 Feb 2025 26,574 posts	Quote Pin larkim Can highly recommend Delamere (on a normal weekend) for that sort of effort. Sadly I've run 150 times there so can't use that because I have too many benchmarks!! It is a great suggestion though. (This weekend Delamere is once again using it's massively hilly B course - 196m of elevation - definitely not PB'able!)
Brunski 6 Feb 2:11pm, 6 Feb 2025 2,523 posts	Quote Pin Brunski Gobi wrote:remove the stress by A. Going to a parkrun that is just hard and not one that is measurable by PB numbers B. Run knackered but push Time becomes irrelevant and you can justify it not being full full gas by doing it already tired :¬) I did that last week and it went well. I ran a 90 min HM on the Friday then a good run out at parkrun with an 18:42 parkrun on a hilly course (350ft gain over 5k). It felt controlled as well, which is another reason I think training is going well. Maybe I do most parkruns fatigued and then either have a few easy days before one, or do a hard 10k soon just to test myself (but try not to build it up as thebe all abd end all)
Gobi 6 Feb 2:22pm, 6 Feb 2025 82,065 posts	Quote Pin Gobi I wouldn't worry too much then @Brunski
Brunski 6 Feb 2:25pm, 6 Feb 2025 2,524 posts	Quote Pin Brunski Yeah I guess I'm keen to put down a time whilst I think I'm going well, but at the same time if training is going well I should be relaxed and not feel the need to prove myself just for some sort of reassurance.
Gobi 6 Feb 2:52pm, 6 Feb 2025 82,066 posts	Quote Pin Gobi Exactly
jda 6 Feb 3:17pm, 6 Feb 2025 18,436 posts	Quote Pin jda That sort of pace on a hard parkrun already tells you you’re doing fine, up to you if you want a proper flat out PB type effort or not.
Brunski 6 Feb 4:07pm, 6 Feb 2025 2,525 posts	Quote Pin Brunski Appreciate you all indulging me in my ramblings, it's been therapeutic. I'm going to keep doing what I've been doing, which may well give me the confidence to put in a faster effort (which I'll take a few easy days before), but I'll not rush to prove fitness to myself/others.

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

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"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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