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Apr 2018
9:31am, 26 Apr 2018
4,537 posts
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larkim
I've enjoyed breaking 20 mile runs down into smaller chunks recently - 13 miles up to parkrun, 3 miles cruising around a parkrun (or sometimes running faster), 4 miles running home etc. Those final few miles don't feel like miles 18,19,20 when things get chunked up.
Having said that, since my first 20 miler last year I've now got no mental fear of them - if I'm not fit, just adjust the pace and expect it to take 3.5 hours rather than 3 etc
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Apr 2018
9:48am, 26 Apr 2018
19,253 posts
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fetcheveryone
Chunking up (fnar) is definitely good - I have done my last 3.1 at our parkrun a couple of times, and it's nice to have people around you to take the focus away from any discomfort. Bit annoying when the parkrun is a bit late starting though, as I find myself doing micro-loops until they get going.
Following this thread as one of many that I hope will be useful en route to Abingdon 
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Apr 2018
9:51am, 26 Apr 2018
2,920 posts
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jennyh
I normally do most of my long runs in one chunk, but the odd one or two in “chunks” as Larkim describes. So this time, three of my 20s were in one hit, one was 15 before parkrun, parkrun, then an extra 2 miles.
My 22 was supposed to be all in one, but as snow meant one half I was supposed to do was called off altogether, and the other was pushed back a week, I ended up racing (as much as I could) the half, then doing 9 after. I think it sort of felt a bit easier, because in my head I was just doing 9 miles and forgot about what I’d done earlier (and it was at a much easier pace than the previous 13).
Just listening to the Marathon Talk podcast, and Tom Williams has basically been saying that London was “warm” rather than hot, and that unless you went off too fast you shouldn’t have overheated...well, I slowed down a lot, had to slow down further still from what I set off at, and still felt like I was being cooked alive for most of the race!
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Apr 2018
9:51am, 26 Apr 2018
4,539 posts
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larkim
Agree with the start line delays etc, but I've asked for my money back at parkrun when that happens. I do feel guilty though if I end up with a 3 or 4 minute break in my long run due to waiting for the start, but I make up for it by running the parkrun at significantly faster than LR pace and that salves my conscience!
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Apr 2018
9:55am, 26 Apr 2018
12,255 posts
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Autumnleaves
People react to heat in different ways - I don't know that I did overheat exactly but I did want to finish in one piece!
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Apr 2018
9:57am, 26 Apr 2018
2,921 posts
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jennyh
Yeah, that is the only problem with including a parkrun. I know ours is normally quite late starting, so am reasonably okay at timing it, but usually still have a bit of a wait!
Cross-posted with Fetch - good luck for Abingdon! Currently trying to work out if it’s possible for me to make it to the Fetchpoint there.
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Apr 2018
9:58am, 26 Apr 2018
2,922 posts
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jennyh
Exactly AL - I felt a bit light-headed at 10 miles, which is when I backed off even further, and stopped looking at my watch very much and just focused on finishing.
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Apr 2018
9:58am, 26 Apr 2018
4,540 posts
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larkim
I think Tom abley demonstrates the difference in heat perception of someone running and someone not running! He can be a complete plonker though sometimes with unnecessarily provocative opinions. And that's coming from me who is accused of exactly the same by my better half!!
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Apr 2018
10:04am, 26 Apr 2018
19,256 posts
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fetcheveryone
We stood there from 7am to gone 4pm, and I can confirm that it was *fricking hot* - two lots of suncream hot.
Luckily we have a duckpond at Bedford that's pretty handy for doing little loops of before the start - and it doesn't ever matter if they start without me Plus I'm on intimate terms with the ED
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Apr 2018
10:07am, 26 Apr 2018
28,654 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Tom is the Katie Hopkins of running journalism - deliberately or accidentally, he is sometimes just dumb. Occasionally entertaining, but increasingly just annoying, I find. And often just plain wrong. And contradictory. It was the hottest ever and for some people it would have been distinctly energy sapping and difficult. For others less so. That's about the best you can say, surely? Unless you're trying to attract clicks on websites, listeners to your endless, repetitive pod cast or generally trying to shock and self promote. And breathe!
Good luck at Abi Fetch, and everyone for autumn maras. Speaking of which, I'm trying to choose an early autumn mara - before end of September. Road, flat so I can do a best time, if I'm in any kind of shape. Any ideas? G
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