Myth of the 20-mile long run

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Nov 2017
11:27pm, 14 Nov 2017
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Dvorak
No 20 milers? What about a nine mile max long run?

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(I'm sceptical.)
Nov 2017
8:01am, 15 Nov 2017
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HappyG(rrr)
There are only so many variations in the marathon training world - shorter vs longer, faster vs slower, more miles per week vs less, more cross training vs less. That's about it surely.

Mix these up, throw in some science b*llocks, make sure you cite lots of pals or clients that you've coached (about 10-20, i.e. not a scientifically valid sample of over 1000 over several years and multiple cycles with blind control studies), write a book, do a decent website and marketing et voila (or whatever that is in Dutch).

There are no short cuts. If something sounds counter intuitive and "easier" then it's wrong. End of. In my not at all humble opinion! :-) G
Nov 2017
8:02am, 15 Nov 2017
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Autumnleaves
I saw that ad on Facebook - I admit I didn't read on but it seems to me that such headlines can be quite irresponsible?
Nov 2017
8:04am, 15 Nov 2017
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Wriggling Snake
It will say run 9 miles 3 times 😆
Nov 2017
9:53am, 15 Nov 2017
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Little Miss Happy
WS - that was my first thought!
Nov 2017
10:10am, 15 Nov 2017
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Chrisull
Quote " When you train The 9-Mile Marathon way you save time, with less accumulated fatigue risk, less risk on endurance related injury "

The point of accumulated fatigue is that it is provoking a training response in your body! The fatigue is not a bad thing. Yes, those who are genetically superior may be able to trot out a marathon of say just over 3 hours (it says 3 to 6) without any specific long runs, and I've suspected I could knock out a sub 4 without going beyond 10, but it's not the training regime that is doing it, it's your genetics.
Nov 2017
10:14am, 15 Nov 2017
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FergusG
If you do actually provide your e-mail details*, you'll ultimately find yourself at a hostmonster.com page that frames a dud (404 Error File Not Found) page.

*I'm not daft enough to provide a real e-mail address to find it's way onto another spam list!
Nov 2017
1:17pm, 15 Nov 2017
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larkim
Wasn't there a reasonably high performing female athlete at New York this year that hadn't run any more than a 25 mile week? (and presumably few long runs) I seem to recall it from a recent marathontalk podcast, but couldn't track it down when I looked this morning.
Nov 2017
1:24pm, 15 Nov 2017
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Dvorak
I suspect (not having run any, of course) that someone with a decent running background and overall fitness (and genetics) could do that: the weeks could be 15/7/3; 18/4/3; 21/4; and repeat.

Making the assumption that the rest of their week would not just be sitting on the sofa guzzling down porkpie.
Nov 2017
1:26pm, 15 Nov 2017
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Dvorak
Sorry, in the spirit of the thread: 15/7/3; 18/4/3; 18/7.

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