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FishEveryone: the Fetchland swimming wire

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Apr 2024
10:35am, 23 Apr 2024
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Nellers
I'm going to be a while yet, Sushi.
Apr 2024
11:51am, 23 Apr 2024
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LindsD
Me too
Apr 2024
12:18pm, 23 Apr 2024
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rf_fozzy
Just a comment (which I suppose will also be deemed abhorrent) - the kids you have been discussing are not those that are the problem. Or where the problem lies.

Once children get into their teens, they are going to do something or, perhaps or perhaps not, more regularly not. And that is their choice. There is huge drop-out in the teenage years in all sports. For a variety of reasons: including other perhaps more sedentary interests and social pressures.

The issue with people not *knowing or learning* how to swim *as a life skill* is about access at a much younger age - and access to swimming lessons through schools - mostly and especially at primary age.

And this will be significantly affected by closures of local authority pools. Which Swim England have highlighted on a number of (probably abhorrent) occasions, e.g. bbc.co.uk

As one anecdote: If had not had access to swimming lessons through my primary school, I would most likely not have learned to swim (even if as shown by my abhorrent postings on here, I'm not very good at it).

Thus as with other sports (see particularly cricket as an example), it will become (and probably already is to some extent) a two tier thing, and a postcode lottery - those that have access will be able to learn to swim. Those without, will not.

I'll leave this here and return to my usual discussions about how to swim butterfly and crawl properly which will also probably be abhorrent, but might upset one less person. Then again probably not.
Apr 2024
12:39pm, 23 Apr 2024
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Nellers
I'm with you totally, Fozzy. We too easily look to blame the individuals for a trend. If it's a trend it's probably systemic and there's a wider cause. There might be an influence of "computer games" to some degree but all sports have, for as long as I can remember, seen a drop off of participation in teens. That's not really relevant to your point though.

Swimming as a life skill should be learned before the influence of those other distractions and is down to availability (by existence, location and cost) of facilities and opportunities and that has definitely declined over the last 20+ years.

I don't really have any issue with the recruitment practices of the armed forces (not my area of expertise) but to blame the individuals when so many individuals are apparently in the same situation is surely missing a bigger issue.
Apr 2024
12:47pm, 23 Apr 2024
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HellsBells
I’m just back from our pool and was very pleased to see lessons going on the whole time in the dive pool (which has a movable bottom so can become a teaching pool) for primary school groups
Apr 2024
1:17pm, 23 Apr 2024
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Nellers
Good that it's School groups doing their swimming lessons, HB. Love that.

When I swim on Saturday mornings there's often a kids "swim school" using a lane of the pool, which is always nice to see, and there's a kids pool where there's parent and toddler sessions at the weekends too.

That's all great but that's only for kids with parent able to make use of it all.
Apr 2024
1:42pm, 23 Apr 2024
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HellsBells
The pool provides the swim teachers for the school groups and they have 2 teachers from the school doing crowd control and escort duty. I did feel sorry for the poor teacher who spent most of the lesson taking one child after another into the toilets!
Apr 2024
1:49pm, 23 Apr 2024
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Nellers
Kids are hard work!
Apr 2024
2:27pm, 23 Apr 2024
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Sushi.
Nellers, absolutely! There’s a reason Fetchhead grew up as an only child ;-)

Now onto an age old gripe on here……

The Lane Twonk

I nearly stopped someone today to ask if they stay in the middle lane on motorways and put their foot down only when someone is passing them.
Apr 2024
4:54pm, 23 Apr 2024
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Daz Love
Swimming is part of the curriculum and all schools as far as I am aware round here use the pool. I see the list of school attending that day when I swim in the morning.

I know that you cannot make parents pay for it (but can ask for a donation) it does always costs school as not all donate.

schoolleaders.thekeysupport.com

Just looked the above up and it is maintaoined schools, so I guess academys can make the choice.

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