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Dec 2013
1:46pm, 17 Dec 2013
2,378 posts
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Sno-Bru
There is a risk of overreaction here. There were signs last summer that the more experienced members of the side were fading and this has come into sharp focus on this tour but, age-wise, players like Peterson and Prior are not past it, yet and their figures suggest they can come back into form. They may just be bloody tired after an incessant schedule of home and away tours, cramming in 20/20 IPL and one-day tournaments into every possible rest day for about the last 5 years. It's no surprise that the newcomers (Carberry, Root, Stokes) have made more of a fist of it. So, yes, bring new people in, but don't write anybody off just yet. Finn in for Broad, Bairstow for Prior and Ballance for Peterson is enough for now. Tremlett and Rankin are no big improvement on Anderson and Bresnan, are they? Swan is getting towards the end of his natural career, so a long-term replacement for him is more necessary, but there's no real obvious candidate. Please not Monty. Onions must be quite glad he was not selected - looks a good shout to get back in - but we need younger fast bowlers than him.
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Dec 2013
1:50pm, 17 Dec 2013
53,126 posts
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Gobi
we need FAST fast bowlers, people who make dead pitches scary
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Dec 2013
3:21pm, 17 Dec 2013
8,289 posts
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TRO Saracen
Sno-bru, not sure I agree with that. Players that have been centrally contracted for 5 years have played a fair amount of international cricket but also remember they are effectively withdrawn from county and all other forms of cricket. Tours are much lighter on warm up matches etc these days (possibly wrongly given the way we usually start a test series).
Not many represent the test, T20 and 1 day teams; others have been strategically withdrawn from certain series or short form parts of tours to get extra rest. I just think it has got very comfy for some of them on central contracts; what they have lost is the mental hunger and edge they once had. That's what the newcomers have over the established pros: hunger, desire - hence they have showed up well.
It was probably declining in the summer; winning that series 3-0 while not being at their best probably induced even greater complacency, hence the disaster that has unfolded. Some may get it back, for some it's pipe and slippers time - and it's really down to management to make the calls on which category each player falls into.
And, frankly, on the day we lose the Ashes a bit of gratuitous over-reaction is therapeutic....;-)
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Dec 2013
3:25pm, 17 Dec 2013
53,127 posts
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Gobi
The way swann bowled they may as well have played ME !!!!!
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Dec 2013
4:00pm, 17 Dec 2013
875 posts
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Heavyweight
With regards Peterson, I don't think he's lost any form, just lost desire. I'd sooner he wasn't in the team whether he's in form or not.
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Dec 2013
4:36pm, 17 Dec 2013
4,031 posts
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Marts! The Herald Angels Sing!
I think we should wait until we get a fast, dry, bouncy ptich with cracks in and then play some tall seamers 
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Dec 2013
5:04pm, 17 Dec 2013
4,058 posts
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Southcoastpete
Talk about timing, I looked at my emails at lunchtime, to find one from Lords advertising their ballot for next Summers games
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Dec 2013
5:10pm, 17 Dec 2013
4,012 posts
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Badger
Got a card from Lords last night. Looked at it and thought 'probably too risky putting in for anything after the second day'.
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Dec 2013
5:21pm, 17 Dec 2013
8,290 posts
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TRO Saracen
I didn't get an email from Lord's. They must have seen me slagging the team off on here....
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Dec 2013
5:24pm, 17 Dec 2013
27,041 posts
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swittlebelonelythischristmas
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