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Dec 2013
5:50pm, 17 Dec 2013
10,469 posts
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The Teaboy
Finn is a 90mph bowler. Tell him to go out and just bowl FAST!
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Dec 2013
6:11pm, 17 Dec 2013
3,060 posts
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Doctor K
Evening Teabers. In Wh Smith's today I was looking at the front cover of "The Cricketer" and it featured the 5 England "pace" bowlers Anderson, Broad, Finn, Rankin and Tremlett with the headline "Bouncers" -presumably inside there was an article on what they were going to do to the Aussies (presumably not suggesting they serve up buffet bowling !) Significantly 2 of them haven't played at all and they played Bresnan, bless him, after 3 months off -no way was he match -attuned.
Stokes was nowhere to be seen but has been the bright light out of the whiole debacle. All I can offer from Lancashire is Simon Kerrigan at the moment -who to be honest deserves better than the trashing he has had so far, yes I know he got hit round the park but he's not own his own now is he ?? Develop players like him and give them a chance to replace the old guard gradually.
On KP -as Michael Vaughan says the "it's how I play" line is one he's used all his career. Well to be honest he can play some fantastic innings and shots but fuck it, let's pull the trapdoor lever. Send him home and let him play 20/20 and one day for England if he wants -20/20 suits his attention span at the moment
Next testm -Cook, Carberry, Root, Bell, Ballance, Bairstow (wkt), Stokes, Finn (or Rankin), Bresnan, Anderson, Monty.
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Dec 2013
8:08pm, 17 Dec 2013
10,471 posts
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The Teaboy
KP has won more tests for England with amazing innings than any other batsman I can think of in my time watching. If he hadn't had the chutzpah (and a smidge of luck) in 2005 to do what he did at the Oval, we wouldn't have won the Ashes for 20 years. Say what you like about his character, but the success of the 2000s test teams has made some supporters churlish when we would have given anything for a batsman of his class in the 80s and 90s.
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Dec 2013
8:16pm, 17 Dec 2013
3,061 posts
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Doctor K
Fair points Teabers. Perhaps I'm becoming like Boycott. In fairness Pietersen is box office and I'd much rather see him bat on balance than Alaistair Cook for example, I like seeing Bell bat too his style is great. It's KP's giving his wicket away which is annoying but he hasn't been on his own there this series.
I think he will stay in the team in actual fact. I think they'll make one or two changes tops
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Dec 2013
9:41pm, 17 Dec 2013
2,380 posts
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Sno-Bru
It's worth remembering that only 1 year ago the Australians were moaning about how Harris and Mitchell were always getting crocked, they had no quality openers, Nathan Lyon was no substitute for Shane Warne, etc. the same players have just got their act together and ours could, too.
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Dec 2013
10:06pm, 17 Dec 2013
5,595 posts
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Tinsel Snake
watching the hifhlights now, the crack is enormous
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Dec 2013
10:22am, 18 Dec 2013
8,292 posts
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TRO Saracen
Maybe we should shove the team down it and fill it up after....
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Dec 2013
10:54am, 18 Dec 2013
5,600 posts
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Tinsel Snake
It looks as if Flower will be going to me...
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Dec 2013
11:03am, 18 Dec 2013
8,293 posts
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TRO Saracen
Sad as I think he has generally been fantastic for English cricket.
Not unexpected though if it happens, been gradually detaching himself for a while and has been a little conspicuous by his absence on this tour (remember how Lehmann fronted up in England). It may be a good thing, as I wonder whether he genuinely could perform the team and culture surgery needed given how well he knows the players.
Not sure who they will go with, promote the King of Spain or maybe someone from the County circuit?
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Dec 2013
11:36am, 18 Dec 2013
53,133 posts
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Gobi
King of Spain is not a bad call actually, for gods sake not Gooch
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