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May 2020
10:49pm, 26 May 2020
2,575 posts
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Tim of Fife
We have not seen any relatives (except my FiL on the day he died).
But Plodding Hippo is right.
A lot of blood families are getting together.
Granny and Grandad from one household. Their son and his wife and family. Their daughter and her husband and family.
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May 2020
10:55pm, 26 May 2020
51,496 posts
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plodding hippo
Loads of people have been social distancing with rellis from day 1.
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May 2020
11:21pm, 26 May 2020
4,071 posts
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run free
Think Mr Cummings has broken something... oh well
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May 2020
11:43pm, 26 May 2020
5,782 posts
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57.5 Degrees of Pain
If I have to self isolate under the Scottish system I might have to take a more UK approach:
Day 1: Go running, not of course for exercise but to check whether I am fit enough to run.
Day 2: Bike ride, not of course for exercise but to check whether I am fit enough to bike after yesterday's run.
Day 3: Visit shops to buy food, in case my wife becomes to ill to visit shops to buy food. Go for run, not of course for exercise but to check whether I am fit enough to run after the activities of the last 3 days.
Repeat until day 14...
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May 2020
11:48pm, 26 May 2020
5,783 posts
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57.5 Degrees of Pain
Dentistry in Scotland now has a reasonable roadmap for the next few months. Though whether we can wield a high speed drill will depend on PPE supplies.
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May 2020
12:26am, 27 May 2020
2,339 posts
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Canute
Strict self-isolation is likely to be very tough for some. So far I have self-isolated for 14 days on one occasion, even though at the time it appeared relatively unlikely that I had been in contact with a case. In my situation, it meant me sleeping in the spare room and working is a room different from my wife's work space. However, in my case, separating from my wife within the house was a mere inconvenience. I am sure that many people will face much more difficult circumstances. Probably in many instances, it will only be feasible if the household isolates as a unit. I think self-isolation is even harder for people who live alone.
But CV-19 is a challenging situation. For the next few months I see only three broad types of way forward:
1) muddle along with a half-hearted lockdown and hope that we do not have a serious second wave. This appears to be the English approach at least for the next few weeks. There is a real danger of undermining the good progress we have made so far.
2) Test extensively and make soft recommendations regarding isolation, supported by use of masks in public spaces together with thoughtful organization of work places and class rooms. Several European countries are doing something along these lines.
3) A systematic test, trace and a strict isolation program supported by use of masks in enclosed public spaces and rigorous plans for safe work-places and class rooms. Scotland appears to be gearing up for something like this. I expect that England will make an attempt to catch up soon.
So far, tracing and isolation of contacts, supported by measures such as masks and travel restrictions, appears to have been the most successful strategy in countries that have achieved good initial control. I do not think we should give up on tracing and isolating until we have examined the details a little more thoroughly. But even tracing and isolating will have to be supported by additional measures.
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May 2020
7:01am, 27 May 2020
2,571 posts
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Little Miss Happy
I hope you get to visit soon Hipps.
How track and trace will work with hospital/care home/etc employees seems a bit vague to me. As has been said you could end up with a whole shift self isolating at the same time.
As I've been self isolating since before lock down it should be very difficult for me to be identified as a contact of a positive test as the only person I've been in proximity of is my husband. What are the chances of those who have been having family gatherings/BBQs etc telling a random caller on the phone exactly what they've been doing and with whom?
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May 2020
7:42am, 27 May 2020
12,830 posts
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Ultracat
I closest I have been to another person apart from OH have been complete strangers in shops. I don’t want to pass on Covid to anyone else, or get it so I am doing what you are supposed to do..
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May 2020
7:45am, 27 May 2020
477 posts
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Non-runner
I just get the sense that it’s nearly over. We just don’t have the type or number of police to enforce a strict lockdown and once people have tasted “freedom” they won’t go back, especially if the NHS is generally coping and there aren’t scare stories about bodies piling up in the streets. Once the hospitality and personal service industries are back open it will be impossible to close them down again and we can’t afford another furlough scheme. I think we just get the one shot at this so let’s hope it has worked.
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May 2020
8:12am, 27 May 2020
2,576 posts
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Tim of Fife
Scotland hasn't legislated for face masks, just suggested that non-medical face coverings be worn in confined spaces where physical distancing is impossible (eg shops, buses, trains).
I am unsure whether they will underpin the proposed Track & Protect with legislation. We'll see.
There is maybe one additional problem with Track & Protect. The idea is that anyone with symptoms self-isolates except to get a test done. Then, if the test is positive, the person provides contact details to a tracer.
All well and good in theory. But if you are feeling totally shite, will you feel able to be bothered with tests, lists, etc?
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