Coronavirus discussion thread

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Tim of Fife Oct 2020 6:00pm, 29 Oct 2020 2,914 posts	0 Tim of Fife i am personally unaware of any large local gatherings, parties, raves, etc. But it is undeniable that many households receive visitors. Some will be carers (including of children), some will be tradespeople, etc, etc. But many aren't. They're just mates coming around for as coffee. Those involved aren't Covid deniers. They're not idiots. Rather, they've made a decision to have limited indoor socialisation, rather than none as per the guidance. I make no judgement as to the rights and wrongs of what they're doing. Simply stating what it is the reality for many households where I live.
Markymarkmark Oct 2020 6:19pm, 29 Oct 2020 13,101 posts	0 Markymarkmark And now West Yorkshire is going to be in Tier 3 too. <sigh>
northernslowcoach Oct 2020 7:43pm, 29 Oct 2020 17,255 posts	0 northernslowcoach Locked down again
geordiegirl Oct 2020 7:55pm, 29 Oct 2020 12,081 posts	0 geordiegirl Oh no where are you NSC?
Spideog Oct 2020 7:57pm, 29 Oct 2020 810 posts	0 Spideog The opportunity for a full lockdown to work has passed. Non of the measures brought in anywhere in the UK are even approaching what we were doing in March /April. Even what has now been brought back in for France and Germany are short of the measures they were under back then. There was one chance for a significant lockdown and the same policy cannot be tried again with any success for a decade, but more likely a generation... Unless something significant changes with the death rate globally that requires some sudden change again. The point of the initial lockdown was to bring things into place to slow the spread and limit initial numbers whilst giving time to figure out what to do next to keep the numbers down. Seems that every country, which had significant infections (except China) just couldn't be bothered though. Only real option now is to figure out what level of infection society can live with and what measures need to be made to keep to those numbers. A lockdown just isn't going to work a second time though. No government is going to go as far as they did in March, and the public won't comply with even the lesser measures as well as they did back then.
Turtlemama Oct 2020 8:13pm, 29 Oct 2020 1,193 posts	0 Turtlemama Agree totally, Spideog. Even at work (NHS) we're saying lockdowns, masks, endless social distancing etc aren't sustainable long term. Covid isnt going anywhere. Question is where society can go, and what risk we (individually or as a society) are willing to take. I have my own views but personal opinion isn't currently relevant.
northernslowcoach Oct 2020 8:36pm, 29 Oct 2020 17,257 posts	0 northernslowcoach West Yorkshire GG Bradford council Went from local lockdown to tier 2 and now to tier 3 I work for the NHS and yes, numbers are up
Tim of Fife Oct 2020 9:25pm, 29 Oct 2020 2,915 posts	0 Tim of Fife Turtlemama An excellent reasoned post. You are spot on. Lurching in and out of restrictions, face masks, physical distancing, no house visits, etc, isn't sustainable
Tim of Fife Oct 2020 9:27pm, 29 Oct 2020 2,916 posts	0 Tim of Fife As to what the alternative is, everyone has a personal view
The_Saint Oct 2020 12:14am, 30 Oct 2020 6,647 posts	0 The_Saint If control measures don't work, can someone explain to me how Australia and New Zealand have done it? As it happens I visited Australia and New Zealand for work purposes many years ago and what struck me forcibly was their low tolerance for idiotic behaviour and a no nonsense attitude to stomping it out.