Conquercise

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Bazoaxe Nov 2017 7:49pm, 10 Nov 2017 12,095 posts	0 Bazoaxe Ted, just read back, but I am still missing the point
K5 Gus Nov 2017 7:52pm, 10 Nov 2017 2,381 posts	0 K5 Gus But this is the Conquersize thread, not the Fetchpoint thread. The whole ethos of the game currently is you have to physically visit the zone to claim the points. If someone can just plot a route on their PC, or load up a virtual route that someone else has created, which then creates a FIT ( or equivalent ) file ( granted you have still "cycled" on a turbo or "ran" on a treadmill ) that contains those GPS co-ords, then that just nullifies the great lengths that some have gone to to visit hard to reach zones. If Fetch can't exclude these files, and even if he can others will be along soon, then perhaps the game becomes more about how many zones you can personally conquer, and only you will know how you conquered them, and a lot less about who "owns" zones. Technology moves on and we have to re-adjust to live with it
Doc Moye Nov 2017 8:44pm, 10 Nov 2017 18,572 posts	0 Doc Moye I miss the point too
mr d Nov 2017 9:22pm, 10 Nov 2017 2,687 posts	0 mr d Sorry, me three.
flanker Nov 2017 12:57am, 11 Nov 2017 17,314 posts	0 flanker Virtual Conquercising is a bit like going on a national treasure hunt when you've managed to nick the organiser's map that showed all the areas where there was hidden treasure, while other people have to make the effort to get out there and explore the locations. I can understand why Ted would want to keep his zones for his personal motivation, but I do feel that as it impacts others who are actually 'playing' the game to move up the leaderboard/increase ownership/whatever that the needs of the many has to outweigh that of the individual. Hopefully fetch can work out an identifier from the FIT file for Swift and the similar (I know you can from most GPX) and exclude them from the main game. Maybe create a separate league for virtual rides.
philip_m_jones Nov 2017 11:14am, 11 Nov 2017 120 posts	0 philip_m_jones Beefy said: Frankly, you shouldn't get to take the M40 Junction 3 one - owned by yours truly - without having to experience the feckin' misery of physically being present. I was a few hundred metres short of claiming that zone this morning: had I known it was a sought after one I would have done those extra yards. Next few weeks I'll claim it for my own!
paul the builder Nov 2017 11:25am, 11 Nov 2017 6,317 posts	0 paul the builder Morally (can't believe I'm using this word about a game, but you know what I mean) it's the same as if a run on a treadmill for an hour and cover 7 miles - then go and plot myself a route in Fetch of 7 miles anywhere in the world. I haven't been to those zones, but I have done exercise equivalent to the length of run that would entitle me to that particular route. (^) I can just about see there's some case to be made for that, but I'll never agree with it. And also equivalent, I think, is running outdoors for an hour, not uploading the route you actually ran, but instead uploading a route you plot that is somewhere else entirely. (^) and if we all did this, then conquercise becomes a route-plotting game mostly.
ChrisHB Nov 2017 11:40am, 11 Nov 2017 15,586 posts	0 ChrisHB Does Zwift show you a video of where you're pretending to be? Does it make your bike climb the same hills and slow down for the same dangerous corners; stop at traffic lights? Does it make a strong wind, rain and hail enhance your ride? (two genuine questions and a silly one). Half of me would like to enter all my youthful cycling into CQ as it is a record of an important element of my life. Doing so would put me at the top of the leaderboard for the next 12 months (unless everyone did the same). The victorious half of me only puts running into CQ, because exploring the world is a natural feature of hiking and of cycling, but not of running for most people most of the time. My solution (only on paper at the moment) is to put my cycling and hiking into my Google Earth representation of CQ in different colours. I know I can do that. For the moment, that knowledge satisfies me.
chunkywizard Nov 2017 5:57pm, 11 Nov 2017 5,083 posts	0 chunkywizard If you have a smart trainer then Zwift can simulate the hills by increasing the resistance, that’s the extent of it.
Yorkshire Pie Nov 2017 5:59pm, 11 Nov 2017 13,293 posts	0 Yorkshire Pie Yes and no. The images are computer generated but for the London and Richmond courses they are based on real places. Same gradients, corners, sights etc. Watopia is fictional and box hill isn't in the right place (it's in London). No stopping for traffic lights though There is rain but as far as I know it has no effect on speed.