The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread

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11 Jan
3:20pm, 11 Jan 2025
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larkim
SPR wrote:I note the Adiós 9 is full lightstrike pro now but no plate (so won't be properly super) which interests me as a training shoe given the Takumi Sen 9 can be harsh (not used it since injury). I believe the 8 is Larkim's current race shoe.

I think I've got the 7s. But I really dislike them, the fit over my small toe is poor with a narrow toe box. So for now I'd probably only race in my usual Launch GTS.
11 Jan
3:30pm, 11 Jan 2025
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Charlesvdw
I respect your stubbornness so I won’t try to change your mind.
11 Jan
4:08pm, 11 Jan 2025
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Chrisull
Whatever happened to minimal shoes? I still prefer them and set all my pbs in them (marathon included).
11 Jan
4:41pm, 11 Jan 2025
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Charlesvdw
Takumi Sen, Nike Streakfly. Not minimalist racing flats but the closest you can get nowadays.
SPR
11 Jan
4:48pm, 11 Jan 2025
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SPR
Charlesvdw wrote:I ran my first marathons in Hoka Bondi. In comparison with the notoriously slow Bondi the Takumi Sen is a proper super shoe.


The comparison will be to actual supershoes. In any case, my not a proper supershoe comment was aimed at the Adiós 9 not the Takumi Sen 9 (and the 8 before it) which are marketed as 5/10k supershoes. Pre the 8, the Takumi Sen was a traditional flat.

Chrisull wrote:Whatever happened to minimal shoes? I still prefer them and set all my pbs in them (marathon included).


These may be up your street as they're like the old Takumi Sens.

adidas.co.uk

I'm pretty sure you won't be happy with the Takumi Sen 9 or above if you want minimal and flexibility. The Adiós 9 would likely be closer to what you want. The soft cushion may compensate for the 20/27 stack. I have the Streakfly, it is very soft, I expect it's akin to a free shoe in that it's cushioned but let's your foot do what it wants. Not tried a free shoe though.
11 Jan
5:37pm, 11 Jan 2025
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larkim
Charlesvdw wrote:I respect your stubbornness so I won’t try to change your mind.

Nicely put!! I guess I just view PBs differently to others. But as evidenced all over this site, I'm not one for having either logical or internally consistent, yet honestly held, views!
11 Jan
6:40pm, 11 Jan 2025
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Charlesvdw
A cynical politician once said "principles are like farts. You hold them as long as you can but eventually you have to let them go".
11 Jan
8:54pm, 11 Jan 2025
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larkim
Yep. Once I genuinely think I can't go sub 20 at a 5k, I've committed to buying supershoes.
14 Jan
10:21am, 14 Jan 2025
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Mark J 🇳🇿
Had a check in with my coach today. He seems happy with my plan and target time for Christchurch in just over 12 weeks. So as along as I stick to the plan and avoid injury, I should be good for another sub 3:15. Mustn't get complacent though. It's a bad habit of mine with most things in my life. Get too bloody cocky and then mess it up. There, said it out loud. that should keep me on track.
14 Jan
7:12pm, 14 Jan 2025
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Windsor Wool
over-confidence or complacency is certainly not something I have ever 'suffered' with. Must be nice in some ways to stand on a start line thinking it's in the bag - OK, it can go wrong but that's got to be better than my norm which is 'there's no way I can do this'!!

But, avoid injury and I'm sure that another PB will come your way Mark. Even just the benefit of another cycle will see to that.

About This Thread

Maintained by Windsor Wool
For those who want to go sub 3.15 in a marathon and/or those that have already done it and want to give advice. Share your journey or help someone else's here.

2025 targets:
Charles - Ghent - 30 Mar
Mark J - Christchurch NZ - 13 Apr

2024 achievers:
Akie: 3:15 @ Rotterdam
allmatthew: 3:09 @ Manchester
Bowman: 3:01 @ Boras
Mark J: 3:12 @ Christchurch NZ
PJH92: 3:13 @ London

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