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The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread

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SPR
May 2020
12:51pm, 10 May 2020
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SPR
Is that what elsewhere does though Larkim. I'm trying to check what PO10 does and I can't see that they keep two or more sets going?

I don't think having different WAVA rankings for different performances is sustainable anywhere TBH. At best, you rank all performances against the different WAVAs.
May 2020
1:00pm, 10 May 2020
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Bazoaxe
Yeah, looks like I only have one 80% plus WAVA now :-(

What a difference in the weather today. I was actually wishing I had gloves. I did see a difference in the HR though which was lower than it has been in the last few weeks of summer.
May 2020
5:46pm, 10 May 2020
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larkim
SPR - I suppose if you ran in 2014 at a Masters athletics event, you'd record the score against the tables on the day, and that would rest for time immemorial. WAVA isn't used formally for anything other than WMA events is it, it's just a convenient marker for the rest of us to keep an eye on.

If I'd sneaked 80.01 or 70.01 on a race because I'd specifically targetted that based on Fetch (or indeed, parkrun) calculations, I'd be a bit miffed now if that was 68.42% etc.
May 2020
7:42pm, 10 May 2020
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chunkywizard
PO10 WAVA figures are calculated on the fly using the 2015 data apparently. I asked the guy that runs the site.
SPR
May 2020
7:46pm, 10 May 2020
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SPR
I thought they would be. I presume they were on the old scores at some point though?
May 2020
8:22pm, 10 May 2020
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chunkywizard
He only changed the handicaps from 2006 data 2 months ago. He had a few complaints but it’s quiet now. I think it’s the social nature of fetch with people setting WAVA scores as targets that makes it harder to swallow here.
JR
May 2020
8:27pm, 10 May 2020
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JR
Ah - that explains why my fake parkrun recorded as 79.9% despite being faster then my last real parkrun which was 11 seconds slower but was over 80%.
SPR
May 2020
10:26pm, 10 May 2020
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SPR
Yeah think you're right CW. I thought I was at 79 odd on PO10 so that makes sense as a recent change.

I think the suggestion of keeping a permanent record of what the WAVA was at the time and a current always up to date makes sense.

Not a fan of keeping old incorrect scores cos things weren't updated. Although with standards being a thing on here I can see how changing things feels odd.
May 2020
10:46pm, 10 May 2020
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Chrisull
Made little difference to me, except my 73 PB is back down to the 72s. I think it's also changed which is my highest WAVA now from one last year to one in 2015.
May 2020
8:59am, 11 May 2020
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Daz Love
I think my 5k have gone up a little with 10k down a little (I cant remember what it was so that may be rubbish)

My best is now a 5k at 77.6% when I am pretty sure that a 10K that I done around the same time was always my highest.

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For those who want to go sub 3.15 in a marathon and/or those that have already done it and want to give advice. Share your journey or help someone else's here.

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Mark J: 3:12 @ Christchurch NZ
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