The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread
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Apr 2019
7:53pm, 21 Apr 2019
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Chrisull
Interesting - The Tanda calculator definitely punishes slower miles though. It's semi-useless to me, it has me outside 3.30 (which may yet well happen, I rule nothing out, I'm not arrogant to think any marathon time is guaranteed, but so far ALL of my flat marathons have been under 3.30) based on my average pace, but a lot of my average pace is spent standing around at junctions waiting for club mates, or jogging back very slowly to them, so I actually don't know my average pace. And of course it then becomes a kind of fartlek - faster rest faster rest is not true average pace. I run some of my recovery runs deliberately slow to stay at HR, and again that is punished.
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Apr 2019
9:12pm, 21 Apr 2019
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Windsor Wool
nice link SS, thanks for sharing. That's the mara predictor that I have used over the last few years now, in a slightly different form it's here: runcambridge.org.uk I'll admit that I've semi promised myself from obsessing about this calculator in the future as as Chris points out it's heavily skewed towards pace and has defo made me focus on running all runs quite quickly. That seemed OK in the past but it's left me completely knacked at times this time around. I think I need to move to focussing on the pace outcomes of key sessions only..... |
Apr 2019
10:46pm, 21 Apr 2019
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SailorSteve
Yep, I can see that as a danger WW but there’s still some ‘headroom’ for me I hope. Also that pace as the key/only dimension ignores alternative ways to get to the achieve your results Chris. As I say, I warmed to it because it seems to give me encouragement that my preferred route of marathon training still presents me with scope for improvement. |
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Apr 2019
3:59pm, 22 Apr 2019
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Chrisull
Yes definitely. Anyway I'm going to approach my marathon quite differently next week, have blogged on it.
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Apr 2019
4:24pm, 22 Apr 2019
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Bazoaxe
I look forward to that read tonight Chris. That calculator based on my hm predicts 2:55 but on training suggests 3:09. Both are nonsense. 2:59 to 3:02 is a more realistic range based on past experience. I had a bit of a poor run yesterday. It was very hot and a bit windy which is my excuse anyway and I am happy with that. My raceplan is pretty much set in my mind now and provided I stick to that I believe I have a reasonable chance. Big risk is in not following the plan. |
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Apr 2019
7:56pm, 22 Apr 2019
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Windsor Wool
that should be no risk at all Baz. You know what you’re doing. Can’t quite believe the weather forecast. Not raced in good running weather so far this year, this could be a 1st! |
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Apr 2019
9:00pm, 22 Apr 2019
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Bazoaxe
What’s the thinking on a run the day before race day? I mostly don’t but have had an easy 4-5 before some recent marathons. I will be resting on the Friday but was considering a bimble round a parkrun that’s close to where I am staying.
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Apr 2019
9:02pm, 22 Apr 2019
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jda
I usually jog around 2-4km, nothing remotely strenuous. I might jog a pr but not if it involved running any distance there and back.
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Apr 2019
9:07pm, 22 Apr 2019
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Bazoaxe
Will try and figure out distance when there but looks less than a mile.
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Apr 2019
9:09pm, 22 Apr 2019
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LouLou
Step away from the park run Bazo - have a wee lie in instead of being up at the crack of dawn. Remember park run is 9am in foreign lands....... You can do an easy run anywhere  Love race week!! Excited for Stoosh's attempt at the Highland Fling this weekend (and hoping I don't go into labour with the excitement!!) |
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