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Oct 2017
9:14pm, 10 Oct 2017
511 posts
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Brunski
There are indeed lots of ways to approach a marathon, but mileage (whatever speed) is key.
Personally I'm probably a bit guilty of cramming my mileage; I think optimally I'd run further and at a slightly slower pace on my easy days, but more miles at a slower pace = more time = a little grief from 'er indoors, impacting on family time and/or work.
So I think days I class as my 'steady' runs were easier, but not always what you'd call proper recovery mileage.
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Oct 2017
9:18pm, 10 Oct 2017
7,399 posts
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LouLou
Bazo - they are running similar times! J had a breakthrough this autumn with a low 39minute and 1.27 half. Super proud of her - even if it is a little hard for me.
Monday 16th October is national "restart a heart" day and there is CPR teaching going on all over the country. I know scotrail hosting in train stations. Lots on twitter.
I should add - I've a good for age place at VLM 2018 which I am hoping to do for fun. No time pressures - other than hopefully maintaining a GFA 
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Oct 2017
9:19pm, 10 Oct 2017
27,640 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Ditto Lou. I've done CPR training a couple times but you have to refresh it so that it is there when someone needs it. Defibs are getting much more common but again I wouldn't know how to use it.
Is there any do formation of the cause? Is it always an undiagnosed underlying heart problem?
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Oct 2017
9:21pm, 10 Oct 2017
27,641 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Confirmation. Sorry on phone.
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Oct 2017
9:22pm, 10 Oct 2017
512 posts
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Brunski
LouLou, I'm a lapsed basic first aider (did CPR training many moons ago), I think your idea is tremendous and as soon as I get the opportunity I'll do it again. I must admit I'd not really thought of it from a runner participating in events point of view before. I think I'd know what to do, but some refresher training would eliminate any hesitation I might have taking action!
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Oct 2017
9:23pm, 10 Oct 2017
7,400 posts
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LouLou
At the moment I had "idiopathic ventrciular fibrillation" which is basically medical speak for an electrical problem with no cause found yet. I am awaiting genetic results coming back to see if any links found. I have "athletes heart" changes on my MRI scan which is essentially changes you get through endurance changes but had no scar/ fibrosis which can form substrate for dodgy condutcion.
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Oct 2017
9:28pm, 10 Oct 2017
11,972 posts
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Bazoaxe
Lou. How can these things be detected. Is it only through an mri? Or can they even be detected?
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Oct 2017
9:34pm, 10 Oct 2017
7,401 posts
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LouLou
Athletes heart changes can be picked up on a echocardiogram (ultrasound scan of heart) - I had one a few years ago as I had a murmur but probably wouldn't have predicted what happened to me. An ECG (electrical trace) of the heart rhythm is used for screening in young athletes.
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Oct 2017
9:39pm, 10 Oct 2017
11,973 posts
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Bazoaxe
Thanks. I had an ecg after my fainting episode a few years ago and that was normal and my fainting was put down to dehydration and hasn't happened again.
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Oct 2017
10:07pm, 10 Oct 2017
25,066 posts
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SPR
Good idea Lou. It got me thinking that if something happened while I am spectating at the Brum mara and HM over the weekend, I'm not sure I could help...
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