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Aug 2017
9:59am, 1 Aug 2017
683 posts
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Daz Love
I am joining the game Happy...
Current niggles for me
Right Peroneal - Never seems to shift but managing it OK, doing some heel raises and stretches using one of them rubber band things!
Right Groin - Feels tighter than usual but not a big worry
Right Knee - Little stiff but stretching normally clears it up
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Aug 2017
10:14am, 1 Aug 2017
4,630 posts
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chunkywizard
I'm achy and tight everywhere, but I don't consider this a niggle!  I have a weaker knee and ankle but no pain which is good. Here's hoping I stay injury free!
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Aug 2017
10:19am, 1 Aug 2017
2,451 posts
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larkim
If I were to join hypochondriac's corner, I'd be logging:-
- whole ankle area on both legs (could be peroneal but feels slightly higher up and moves around as Baz describes). Could just be general fatigue I suppose.
- achilles stiffness - doing drops when I remember, but any discomfort seems to come and go and is certainly not worsening
- I'm equally bad at not attending to foam rollering of calves, mainly because I find it too tough on my arms to suspend myself for long enough! Get plagued by noctural cramps usually after I've done anything more than a couple of miles at tempo / 5k pace (despite consuming SIS Go tablet drinks, eating plenty of bananas)
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Aug 2017
10:25am, 1 Aug 2017
27,017 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Cramps are general fatigue and eccentric tightening, imho. Fix: strengthening pre-runs and foam rollering (or paid for massage, for the wealthier athlete!) post-runs.
For me (in the warped logic of a runner?)
Not getting worse = good.
Moving around = good.
I often say to myself, "Ooh, that's good. I've got a new injury." In the sense that if it's a new one, it's not an old one that's worsening. Perverse!
Loving Hypochondriacs Corner. We usually only do this through mutual taper time  not mid training. Another way of looking at it though is Niggle Watch - Awareness Aids Prevention? G
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Aug 2017
10:45am, 1 Aug 2017
1,750 posts
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jdarun
Wow some of you really do sound like you've been in the wars. Can't remember the last time I had any more than a two-day niggle due to excess use e.g. a slightly aching knee just for a day recently. And DOMS but that doesn't count.
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Aug 2017
10:56am, 1 Aug 2017
2,452 posts
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larkim
Ref cramps - it's amusing isn't it because the more you google them, the more potential causes and solutions appear. It seems that medical science is broadly baffled by them!
Didn't get them last night after 10x100m strides, which surprised me. Though I was dead to the world after a weekend sleeping on an airbed and only 5 hours sleep the night before, so perhaps that helped!
Actually, on the 10x100m strides - it was commented last time that many on here do the strides as part of a GA run. P&D say "These sessions are done after a thorough warm up and often toward the end of a general aerobic run or a recovery run. Allow yourself plenty of rest between repetitions so that you can run each one with good technique"
I've been doing them at the end after the GA run simply because to meet the "plenty of rest" bit it means they take me a good 20 minutes to complete - a couple of minutes rest post-GA, then about 25s for each stride with a good nearly 90s to walk back and start it again. I think if I did them mid-run I'd be tempted to rush them and sacrifice the resting periods.
Once upon a time I thought of strides as more like a 100m burst of fartlek in an easy run, but having read the book that's clearly not what P&D intend. I suppose I am missing out a cool-down period after the strides, but now I've found a nice 100m flat section right outside my house the motivation to head off for another couple of easy miles is low, even if I should do something closer to 6 miles / strides / 2 miles to be more P&D compliant.
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Aug 2017
11:12am, 1 Aug 2017
3,061 posts
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Windsor Wool
lark - I do everything I can to avoid cramp; I'm a forefoot striker and can get calf issues after hard interval sessions. I also still get issues late on in marathons. I think the major factor is under-training (or perhaps not being tuned to do the things we really want to do) but I found a shortcut is the use of calf compression. The tighter the better - for me the socks are a bit sloppy - so I tend to use Compressport calf guards. Always on short, hard sessions, often on tempos, always on races > 5k.
I know the science is sketchy, all I'll say is that I think they help me.
I've also started running strides on slight downhills where I can, that really gets your legs moving!
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Aug 2017
11:16am, 1 Aug 2017
2,453 posts
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larkim
I've tried running in compression sleeves in the past and that actually caused (or at least correlated with) cramping in the run - I really didn't enjoy that at all. I actually don't cramp when I run (not yet anyway!), what I get is calf muscles which are visibly twitching / bubbling away (quite perversely pleasant actually!) in the first hour after a hard evening run, which then continue when I've got into bed and often cramp mid-sleep or as I'm dropping off. That it is less pleasant!
On the whole I don't worry about them, but I have heard of these sorts of cramping episodes actually tearing a muscle so that is the one bit that potentially concerns me. That, and waking up the wife, which might also cause significant injury...
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Aug 2017
11:38am, 1 Aug 2017
684 posts
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Daz Love
Never really suffered from cramps since running. Did use to get in my later football days. I remember one episode when I was out shopping after a game with the wife. Sitting at a desk in a showroom and they hit, I must have looked crazy as it is so so painful for that minute or so, darent move after they subsided!
One thing I am better at these days is foam rolling. Tend to jump on the roller a couple of times a day for a little roll of the calves. Also have a sports massage once a month (not sure I am a wealthy athlete though Happy!)
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Aug 2017
11:44am, 1 Aug 2017
3,062 posts
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Windsor Wool
there you go, that's why the science is tough in this area. I know we're a sample size of 2 but to get opposite outcomes is impressive!
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