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10:31am
10:31am, 5 Oct 2024
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Johnny Blaze
Oh...
10:34am
10:34am, 5 Oct 2024
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Johnny Blaze
As part of our plans to improve responsible access to nature, Labour will create nine new National River Walks, one in each region of England, and establish three new National Forests in England, whilst planting millions of trees and creating new woodlands. Labour will expand nature-rich habitats such as wetlands, peat bogs and forests so families can explore and wildlife can thrive, including on public land. Labour is committed to reducing waste by moving to a circular economy.

Three new National Forests?
10:35am
10:35am, 5 Oct 2024
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Johnny Blaze
Labour will deploy more distributed production capacity through our Local Power Plan. Great British Energy will partner with energy companies, local authorities, and co-operatives to install thousands of clean power projects, through a combination of onshore wind, solar, and hydropower projects. We will invite communities to come forward with projects, and work with local leaders and devolved governments to ensure local people benefit directly from this energy production.
10:36am
10:36am, 5 Oct 2024
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Johnny Blaze
To deliver our clean power mission, Labour will work with the private sector to double onshore wind, triple solar power, and quadruple offshore wind by 2030. We will invest in carbon capture and storage, hydrogen and marine energy, and ensure we have the long-term energy storage our country needs. A new Energy Independence Act will establish the framework for Labour’s energy and climate policies.
10:37am
10:37am, 5 Oct 2024
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Johnny Blaze
Why haven't they done all this already? They've had two months*, FFS.

*includes summer holidays, parliamentary recess, govt handover and zero budgets.
10:41am
10:41am, 5 Oct 2024
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Johnny Blaze
Scotland has 63% (9 GW) of the total installed onshore wind farm capacity in the UK.

Scotland stands out as the leader with 9GW, accounting for 63% of the UK market. It’s worth noting that since 2019, the majority of newly installed projects have taken place in Scotland.

That is going to change.
10:56am
10:56am, 5 Oct 2024
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TROSaracen
Lots of word salad, I nearly got my Caesar dressing out. It’s a manifesto, rather than the solid plan of anction you’d expect after 3 months.
11:02am
11:02am, 5 Oct 2024
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Cheeky’s Dad
Chrisull wrote:We need behavioral change on a mass scale, and only by lots of little things do you start encouraging that.

Exactly so. I don’t think anyone is arguing CCS is the magic bullet which allows us to blithely carry on as we have been. If it’s one of many solutions it’s worth pursuing. Just because it’s unproven doesn’t necessarily mean it’s worthless. Now of the other solutions are cheap, instant or likely to be immediately popular either
11:14am
11:14am, 5 Oct 2024
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Yakima Canutt
Chrisull wrote:It's a white elephant in that, we could be doing simple things - insulating homes, putting HVOs into oil boilers, grant backed roll out of heat pumps, ease planning issues on wind and solar, planting more trees, less council cuts of grass (along with public education program as to why), subsidise trains far more while penalising flights - a million little things that lead one way. CCS is unproven, makes things worse according to plenty of scientists and is like a giant big tech "we are gonna save the planet" solution, as always lulling people into complacency. We need behavioral change on a mass scale, and only by lots of little things do you start encouraging that.


Nah. That's not right.

In the north sea we've been pumping gas into wells for years. It's a tool how oil companies keep the pressure up in the well to maintain production when it starts to deplete.

The fact is that we know how to do gas in this country (and Norway). We're very good at it. Seems perfect sense as part of an ET solution to enable this technology and the infrastructure around it to be used in a less /zero carbon manner. Norway is also doing the same.

Wind building capacity is maxed out and stuck with Nimbys all over the UK complaining and stalling the consent process. Floating wind is actually the new and untested technology. I hope that works but currently the preferred design isn't fixed and there are problems to still sort out (one of the issues with offshore wind we are beginning to understand is that the cabling is breaking and not coping as well with the pressures of operation). Floating wind will use a humongous amount of steel for chain and anchoring capacity for that is an issue.
11:17am
11:17am, 5 Oct 2024
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Yakima Canutt
As a Scot I'm blessed that God gave us oil and

A lot of rain and a lot of wind. From an energy resource perspective it is one of the best places in the world

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