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9 Aug
1:12pm, 9 Aug 2024
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Ally-C
HappyG(rrr) wrote:Yeah that Labour ex councillor needs to be prosecuted for that language. Absolutely horrible.


I’ve not seen the clip. He went too far by what I’ve read. But there’s a fascist element that will only respond to getting taken off the streets.
jda
9 Aug
1:14pm, 9 Aug 2024
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jda
My wife enjoyed did our company accounts. Not really worth getting an accountant for, we had very little activity though 3-monthly VAT returns was a bit tedious. She was already doing 4 personal tax returns each year. I think in a parallel universe she’d probably have been an accountant :-)
9 Aug
2:01pm, 9 Aug 2024
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richmac
rf_fozzy wrote:Cheg wrote:Normally people use their accountants or solicitors address to prevent their residential address being out there. Got to make getting your Amazon deliveries a little awkward. Personally I use my address as my address....


Think Cheg means for Companies house etc & I agree thats common practice
9 Aug
6:21pm, 9 Aug 2024
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Ally-C
Big Antifa turnout in Belfast tonight allegedly.
10 Aug
8:47am, 10 Aug 2024
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richmac
Question here, what rating, for want of a better phrase, do we award the governments handling of the Farage riots?

The policing, political response and court process I think are the 3 relevant areas, but feel free to add your own.

I think it's actually been very good.

From being on the back foot at the start, quickly adapting, Starmer pulling together a special unit in days, then the courts stepping up and processing cases in days.

And the absolute annihilation of the fabricated 2 tier bollocks.

Also, the public stepping up.

Reform and it's lackeys have had their necks firmly wound back in.
10 Aug
9:10am, 10 Aug 2024
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JamieKai *chameleon*
I've definitely been disappointed by how wrong-footed they were to begin with - I'd have thought the GCHQ types and similar would have a closer eye on the far right Tommy Two-Names supporter online groups, but that's less a government criticism than a structural one.

I've also been very worried over this time for neighbours and colleagues, as verified information was scarce, leading to a lot of hearsay stuff.

It feels like it's the public response that has quelled the behaviour more than the government, although the judiciary's speedy response is a credit given the pressure they remain in.

With good weather predicted this weekend, it feels far from over at this stage.
jda
10 Aug
9:30am, 10 Aug 2024
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jda
I don't think it's easy to predict what was really a viral event. Robinson and his ilk are always agitating over something, you can't be on high alert for ever or else it's not high alert, just normal alert! I'm basically impressed, though perhaps it's more the public than official response that has been most impressive.
10 Aug
12:36pm, 10 Aug 2024
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rf_fozzy
I don't see how you would possibly predict someone on the far right making a conspiracy theory up and it going viral.

Viral events on social media are notoriously difficult to predict.

"The government should have known" line is also what quite a few of the far right enablers (e.g. Matt Goodwin) have been pushing - "arguing" that it's the level of immigration "forcing" the rioters to riot and be racist.

Which of course is total bollocks. Not matter how much Douglas Murray or Goodwin or others dress it up in 'academic-sounding' language.

Their claims are almost always fact free and without evidence to back them up (or if there is, it is cherry-picked).
jda
10 Aug
2:03pm, 10 Aug 2024
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jda
Even if you believe that immigration levels made it happen, they didn't make it happen on a specific day and in a specific place.

Kind of like the poster here who has predicted about 25 of the last 3 political defenestrations.
11 Aug
9:53am, 11 Aug 2024
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Canute
I think that both the Government and the tolerant majority in our society deserve credit for the response to the riots. Let’s hope their success is sustained.

Perhaps the Government were aught a little flat footed for a day or two at the beginning, but I think it would be unfair to be critical as the social-media fuelled spread of these riots was unprecedented.

We have had riots before. As recently as 19th July there was rioting in Leeds – triggered by the response to the handling by social services of an alleged child abuse case. The spread was rapid but confined to a single city. On the other hand the misguide response to the Southport murders spread in an extraordinary manner.

It is to the credit of the Government that there have already been prosecutions of social media provocateurs. I do not know whether or not new legislation is required. However, it is clear that a new level of vigilance is required to detect to the sudden emergence of viral provocation from the continual rumbling background of horrid hate speech in social media.

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