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jda
10 Jul
2:30pm, 10 Jul 2024
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jda
I don't think global popcorn production will be enough.
10 Jul
3:02pm, 10 Jul 2024
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richmac
I agree.

Reform policies are simply populist rubbish designed to appeal to people who don't want to think to much.

As said, how people who works for a living or is on benefits can be fooled into thinking Farage is one of them escapes me

As far as I can make out Reform want to essentially turn the UK into a closed work camp with low wages to enrich the rich and low tax, but no public services.
10 Jul
3:02pm, 10 Jul 2024
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larkim
I saw Braverman yesterday noting that the problem with the Tories was that they were too into being nice. And that they oversaw children mutilated at the altar of the "gender" debate. So that's why they lost the election.

To be honest, if she's convinced of those aspects, I'd be quite happy to have her as leader as her grasp on the realities of why they lost are a little "askew" so she'll not make much progress by simply demanding that Starmer starts being nasty to people.
10 Jul
3:03pm, 10 Jul 2024
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larkim
Kinnock used the phrase "simple answers to complex questions" as representing what Reform bring. It's a quite nice polite way of summarising things, tbh. And chimes well with a world which has increasingly tried to reduce things to binary choices or 140 characters.
10 Jul
3:07pm, 10 Jul 2024
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rf_fozzy
"simple answers to complex questions"

Or simplism.

See Brexit.
10 Jul
3:49pm, 10 Jul 2024
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richmac
If you want to see what appeals to reform voters, if you can bear it look at 30p's face book.

A post about loving this brilliant country, it's history, the royal family etc.

Good voters don't even read the policies
10 Jul
3:49pm, 10 Jul 2024
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richmac
* his voters
10 Jul
3:52pm, 10 Jul 2024
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LindsD
And I forgot: (sorry, a million years ago). Sad not to win the poll. Sooo close.
SPR
10 Jul
6:10pm, 10 Jul 2024
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SPR
If that simple answers are the only answers, eventually people will turn to them.

Braverman as leader stoking hate isn't what is needed. Yes, she's unlikely to win but it keeps that time of stuff in the mainstream and the people that are othered by it suffer the consequences.
11 Jul
8:47am, 11 Jul 2024
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Pothunter
The rhetoric and lies from Tory MPs continues. This is copied from NextDoor (a neighbourhood Facebook type site which, in my area at least, is a haven for right wing pensioners). It was posted by Louie French who is the MP for Old Bexley and Sidcup.

“Less than 24 hours after being in Downing Street, Sadiq Khan has today confirmed that the Blackwall Tunnel, which was built in 1897 and was one of few free road crossings towards the east of London, will soon see charges for drivers 7 days per week.”

Plenty of hate for Khan in the comments but a few people have pointed out that this isn’t actually news and the charges were announced when the Silvertown tunnel project was signed off by the Conservative government.

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