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27 May
6:46pm, 27 May 2024
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Chrisull
Yeah I'm thinking national service ain't going to much to the polls on further reflection.

Meanwhile Tory poll "expert" says the polls are wrong:

theguardian.com

He seems to be arguing for what Opinium already do (call 2019 Tory voters who are currently don't knows under the Tory column). I think he's wrong. I think some will come back, but there are serious levels of "they are clowns and I can't vote for them again". I think some analysts have a hard time admitting voters stay at home if they don't like the main options. Feels like wishful thinking on his behalf? Thoughts?
27 May
7:15pm, 27 May 2024
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Johnny Blaze
No idea!

ION: I went to the pub to meet and nominate the Labour candidate today. We don't yet know who the Tory candidate will be but the Labour chair thinks it will be Jonathan Gullis. FFS!

Also, Andy Street will run for Solihull. If he stood in Stratford-upon-Avon he would walk it.
SPR
27 May
7:36pm, 27 May 2024
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SPR
How many voters vote on single issue in a General election and how significant does that issue need to be? National service doesn't seem to be that type of issue so needs to be part of a bigger picture to have any chance to work IMO.
27 May
7:36pm, 27 May 2024
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richmac
bbc.co.uk

Ha ha ha it just keeps getting worse for Sunak. Tick tock.
27 May
7:47pm, 27 May 2024
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rf_fozzy
Andy Street just announced he's not standing to be an MP

Steve Baker is on a beach in Greece.
27 May
7:48pm, 27 May 2024
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rf_fozzy
Steve Baker also wrote a piece for someone this morning trashing the national service idocy and says no one discussed it with him - a minister for northern Ireland, where there may be some issues with it...
27 May
7:49pm, 27 May 2024
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rf_fozzy
I suspect many won't pick up on all this, but the chaos must be obvious to even the most uninterested.

The national service thing has cut through though - but with people thinking it's a stupid idea.
27 May
7:53pm, 27 May 2024
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rf_fozzy
I think that the Tory analyst is clutching at straws.

At worst it means a hefty labour majority. At best it's wipe out.

The assigning of 2019 Tory voters saying don't know is not of a sufficient size to result in even a small labour majority

As John Curtice said it'd have to take the historic biggest polling miss and the biggest narrowing of the polls for the Tories to enter hung parliament territory.

And nothing Sunak has done since announcing the election will have helped him in the slightest
27 May
8:16pm, 27 May 2024
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Johnny Blaze
Interesting about Andy Street! Perhaps he sees which way the wind is blowing.
27 May
8:24pm, 27 May 2024
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JamieKai *chameleon*
Sticking 177 down for my Election guess, hoping to be wrong Chrisull

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