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Oct 2023
1:11pm, 31 Oct 2023
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Chrisull
12:07 BBC

"We often report on some of the tensions behind the scenes in government.

But some of the language being used in the exchanges in No 10 is jaw-dropping.

We won't repeat it here - but Dominic Cummings is remarkably dismissive of senior ministers who were involved in the response to the pandemic."
SPR
Oct 2023
1:13pm, 31 Oct 2023
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SPR
So they aren't saying specific expletives, I'm sure they are reporting any detail as necessary without repeating word for word.
Oct 2023
1:15pm, 31 Oct 2023
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Little Nemo
You can watch Cummings give evidence on iPlayer and nothing's being censored! If you want the gist of it - everyone is useless apart from him and the people he has appointed. He must be a nightmare to work with :-o
Oct 2023
1:37pm, 31 Oct 2023
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Dave W
There must be some of the civil servants who are good at their jobs. But the trouble with people like Johnson is they tend to surround themselves with Yes-people because their egos can’t take anyone saying they mate wrong. So anyone with a modicum of integrity and good sense gets shifted away. And just having a bunch of brown-nosers in the positions of influence is neither use nor ornament. They might as well not be there. In fact it’s worse than that. They reinforce shit thinking and decisions.
Oct 2023
1:38pm, 31 Oct 2023
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Dave W
Freudian slip. “They might be wrong “. But if the cap fits.
Oct 2023
2:03pm, 31 Oct 2023
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Johnny Blaze
Dom is another clown who fails to see that an arrogant dismissal of everybody will leave you rather isolated and that damping down your own ego and working as a team player will ultimately achieve more. Because these are complex systems, see, and you need others to make them work.
Still, he must have been right because he has gone from strength to strength since he was sacked on an important point of principle - ie calling the boss's girlfriend names.
Oct 2023
2:27pm, 31 Oct 2023
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Chrisull
Peston is reporting. He says Cummings, "underestimated the incompetence of government ministers" calling them "morons, f*kpigs and c*nts". That's the kind of detail I was looking for :)
SPR
Oct 2023
2:31pm, 31 Oct 2023
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SPR
It doesn't really add anything though does it?
Oct 2023
2:46pm, 31 Oct 2023
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HappyG(rrr)
I agree with SPr - Cummings's schoolboy rude words don't carry any additional weight to the argument. Summary surely is "one influential, high-ranking advisor thinks other advisors and political masters did bad things". His opinion may or may not be informed by the fact that they fell out massively and he was sacked.

They're all selfish, self serving narcissists. Imho.

Gosh, Gaza is a complete disaster - bombs and bullets raining down on civilians including children. Heart breaking.
Oct 2023
2:49pm, 31 Oct 2023
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rf_fozzy
Reporters can report without being stenographers

In fact too frequently that's how the political reporters act - he said, she said, they said etc.

The live text feed really doesn't need a ticker tape of exactly what was said when. Particularly, since as has been pointed out, the whole thing is being streamed live.

So if you want the colourful metaphors (and I am in favour of more passionate and direct language in politics in general), watch the feed. Don't complain that the reporters on the live text actually report and omit Dominic Cummings' more eccentric nonsense.

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