Oct 2022
10:39pm, 23 Oct 2022
1,435 posts
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fuzzyduck79
Should we also include Eat Out To Help Out and the small business fraudulent loan scheme for balance? I’m not sure I’d give him a thumbs up for his pandemic fiscal policies, and that is largely where he went from highly popular to pretty unpopular in ratings. Anyway, I agree he is widely seen as a safe pair of hands at this moment, and will be seen as a far better choice than Truss. Will be interesting to see how he handles the clamour for a GE |
Oct 2022
10:40pm, 23 Oct 2022
28,765 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I’ve worked in several companies where there was a level of middle management who would attach themselves to the hindquarters of one senior leader after another, repeating all the lines their new master instructed them to deliver without so much as a single blush. There was no level of insincerity and self-abasement they wouldn’t sink to. And in the end the only motives were one or all of the following: I preserve my job I get more money I get his/her job at some stage when the opportunity arises It was always self, self, self with them. |
Oct 2022
10:46pm, 23 Oct 2022
1,940 posts
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paulcook
So the Tory party gets the first female PM and the first from an Asian heritage. And next month, the first ... |
Oct 2022
10:51pm, 23 Oct 2022
38,645 posts
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SPR
BTW if Johnson wanted unity, tricking cabinet members into backing him only to pull out hours later is not the way to achieve it. Cleverly and Zahawi should know better but still.
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Oct 2022
10:53pm, 23 Oct 2022
28,766 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I expect plenty of “Tories” to be so discusted by this leadership election that resulted in the election of a person with brown skin that they burn their membership cards in protest. Do not infer anything from their motives from this.
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Oct 2022
11:05pm, 23 Oct 2022
3,476 posts
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JRitchie
I think the March22 budget was his low point - not EOTHO. Every G7 country was offering small business support loans through pandemic. Administered by the banks in the UK as these things always are. Not sure I understand why his was fraudulent. (Fraudulent claims says more about UK small business to me sadly) He’s picked up a hospital pass though mostly self inflicted by the party. Safe pair of hands yes but he has to try to explain to Joe public that the crap (inflation, energy prices and interest rates) we are facing is due to external factors and not due to his predecessor. That’s really tough to do. The electorate is angry - and will continue to be unforgiving - even if he makes the right calls. |
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Oct 2022
11:30pm, 23 Oct 2022
1,436 posts
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fuzzyduck79
Yes I meant the bounce back loans scheme: theguardian.com Of course it was administered by the banks wasn’t it! Silly me. Now the vaccine rollout, that was all done by Johnson, as per Sunak’s statement this evening. |
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Oct 2022
11:37pm, 23 Oct 2022
1,437 posts
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fuzzyduck79
Incidentally, I think some level of fraud is inevitable in any large scale scheme where large amounts of money are flying about (eg PPE procurement) So even if £4.9 billion is written off to fraudsters that doesn’t mean that nothing good came of the remaining amount lent out. All in the details. |
Oct 2022
1:40am, 24 Oct 2022
18,630 posts
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rf_fozzy
"He’s to the centre of the party" I call BS on this. He's very much on the right wing. He's support for brexit proves this. Just because he's slightly and I mean *slightly* to the left of Liz truss, that does not mean he's to the centre. There is no centre of the Tory party, it's rotten to its core. Brexit has seen to that. |
Oct 2022
7:15am, 24 Oct 2022
20,063 posts
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richmac
Sunak is already damaged goods. Fined at party gate Non Dom scandal On film boasting about diverting financial support towards affluent areas Responsible at least in a large part for the mess the country is in. Is seen as a back stabber. On the plus side Implemented someone else's idea for furlough Err that's it. |
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