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May 2022
1:06pm, 25 May 2022
27,309 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I've read it. It's pretty damning but not as damning as I expected. I find it somewhat hard to believe that a bunch of youngish people getting pissed at Christmas didn't have at least some of them taking photos on their phone, but that's where we are.
Pretty clear that Bozo was giving all the gatherings he attended his stamp of approval and in general Number Ten, in the middle of a GLOBAL PANDEMIC LOCKDOWN was acting In Pub-o-Parentis. Pubs are closed? We'll just get pissed at work! No problem!
It's him. It's how he operates. Slapdash, reckless, entitled, incompetent, and lacking in anything that might be termed a leadership value.
I think there's more to come. He may well brazen it out because his MPs are a bunch of gutless creeps without a bone of principle in their bodies.
He is, we are told, "the best they have got" - given that he is the worst PM since the war and the worst human being to hold the office since the war that is damning indeed.
Plus side - with him in place Labour will marmelise them at the next election, so it's a win whether he resigns or not.
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May 2022
1:11pm, 25 May 2022
86,996 posts
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swittle
MPs currently walking away from the benches and sidling out of the house.
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May 2022
1:27pm, 25 May 2022
16,586 posts
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Cerrertonia
Theresa May looks like she's planning to beat Johnson to a pulp.
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May 2022
1:28pm, 25 May 2022
2,160 posts
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Roberto
MPs currently walking away from the benches and sidling out of the house.
Hopefully to write their letters
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May 2022
1:28pm, 25 May 2022
17,097 posts
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rf_fozzy
Sue Gray report and reaction as expected.
Disappointing for everyone who had built it up to be some kind of earth shattering event I expect.
For the realists, it is as expected.
Johnson will continue for the foreseeable. Suspect Jamie or Cheg have approximately the correct dates for when he's pushed out.
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May 2022
1:37pm, 25 May 2022
42,396 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
I don't quite understand how Keir Starmer and others can't make this stick?
"Conclusion
2. Whatever the initial intent, what took place at many of these gatherings and the
way in which they developed was not in line with Covid guidance at the time.
Even allowing for the extraordinary pressures officials and advisers were under,
the factual findings of this report illustrate some attitudes and behaviours
inconsistent with that guidance. It is also clear, from the outcome of the police
investigation, that a large number of individuals (83) who attended these events
breached Covid regulations and therefore Covid guidance."
So confirmation in this report and in the police investigation that the activities that occurred were "breached Covid regulations". So the statements in parliament by PM ("... Covid regulations were not broken...") was factually incorrect. What more is needed?  G
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May 2022
1:41pm, 25 May 2022
17,945 posts
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larkim
Agree with fozzy. I am disappointed, as I hoped that some of the hyperbole on here might actually be matched by the report, but in the end Gray has characterised some of the activities in just the way that I'd expected and the more damning reported events (which are few in number) don't involve the PM.
Annoying that Cummings was unable to provide any documentary evidence (despite his bluster) and that there isn't an extensive documentary trail of people opposing the gatherings etc.
My only hope is that despite the DM and Sun still sticking by him, even they've been stung by a realisation that he's a complete idiot so he's used up a whole heap of "credits" with them which won't be able to be cashed in next time he stuffs things up.
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May 2022
2:16pm, 25 May 2022
17,098 posts
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rf_fozzy
See I'm not disappointed. It was precisely what I expected.
Unsurprising really that Cumming's mud turned out to be no more than magic dust that vanished when looked at.
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May 2022
2:18pm, 25 May 2022
4,191 posts
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J2R
larkim, I don't share your optimism about the Sun and the Daily Mail. They're not going to turn against him as long as he is fucking up the country the way they want it to be fucked up. His competence, honesty, whatever, really don't come into the equation.
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May 2022
2:23pm, 25 May 2022
17,947 posts
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larkim
I get where you're coming from, but obviously they would argue he's not f'ing the country up, he's improving it. If they see that he's not delivering for them, they'll turn. And he may risk not delivering simply by looking like an electoral disaster zone. They won't back him through thick and thin.
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