Feb 2020
11:16am, 10 Feb 2020
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Chrisull
Oh Im sure there's plenty of other things in there too. The Corbynites are saying it's a rejection of centrism and they just need a nice Jeremy Corbyn figure to help it along. I feel it's another symptom of populism, tired of the same old politics, and yes Ireland came close to breaking the two party hegemony in the late 1990s early 2000s with Dick Spring and Labour as well, but now it's a lot more ripe for it. Varadkar's unpopularity is a given, you don't lose elections when you're popular. Housing for young people is one I keep reading about. I agree that a vote in the south isn't about reunification necessarily, but I maintain the attitude of the British govt to both Northern Ireland and Scotland is helping drive people to conclude reunification/independence from GB is preferable, far more so than any of Corbyn's supposedly anti-partriotic leanings.
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Feb 2020
12:46pm, 10 Feb 2020
15,910 posts
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Bazoaxe
I read a BBC news article and it reported pretty much as per your post Chris ,so think you might have been unfair on the Beeb ? Back to MacKay - I see an SNP Councillor has made the claim that he was caught out by a Westminster honeytrap. Do hey really believe Westminster set up a bunch of 16yo boys in the hope that MacKay would bombard them with unsolicited contacts. |
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Feb 2020
3:24pm, 10 Feb 2020
15,738 posts
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Chrisull
I was watching the news at 10 last night... the articles since then are fine, but it's what they choose to lead with/report on the main news that bothers me.
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Feb 2020
7:07pm, 10 Feb 2020
8,388 posts
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simbil
Didn’t really see the bbc reporting as much of an issue. Interesting result though, things shifting in Ireland. Still more concerned with the ticking clock to the end of the year and the real Brexit day and how little other than posturing seems to be happening. Thought the US trade deal might be the big plan B, but have read the govs own analysis shows that even a very good deal won’t be worth that much to us. |
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Feb 2020
7:23pm, 10 Feb 2020
15,739 posts
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Chrisull
They weren't reporting the news. Sinn Fein won. The opinion polls were wrong. That was true last night. I'm not speculating or exaggerating, this is fact. Also see US elections, reporting on Pete Buttigieg's "surge" in New Hampshire, bbc.co.uk when Sanders is 5 points ahead, and outside NH and Iowa, Buttigieg's chances look slim (although if he does ok in NH he may get a bounce, but his appeal to African American voters is lower than Sander's pretty underwhelming appeal to these voters). The BBC should report the simple stories, even it's not popular with their staff or their viewers. Sinn Fein won the popular vote in Eire by a couple of percent. Let's remember within my lifetime the BBC were having Sinn Fein's words voiced by actors for some bizarre reason (at the behest of the Major govt). I don't particularly like Sinn Fein. And to me it's obvious residue from that time. The BBC are still not happy about Corbyn, so Sanders will also not get balanced coverage, as they see him as Corbyn part II. I don't like Corbyn, but I do appreciate he got an unfair monstering from the media, and the BBC were part of that. Sanders will win the popular vote in NH (5% lead at the mo), barring an earthquake. Not some kind of weird, "special interest angle". Sanders has a lot of issues (not least being a 78 year old man who lied about not having a heart attack), but really it's Sanders vs Warren vs Biden and it's gonna take a lot for Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Bloomberg to change this. BBC have been shit recently, they think balance equals getting in a gay rights spokesperson and then a sick as fuck weirdo evangelist who thinks all gays should be chemically castrated as balance. That is not balance. Their tone is reminiscent of propaganda. Over Brexit they uncritically reported the No 10 line from Cummings (such as the punch that never was) (so did Peston). To be honest I'm not that bothered they are now going get done over by the Tories, they've stopped being critical and informed news coverage. Channel 4 and Sky have been far superior for a while now. |
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Feb 2020
7:29pm, 10 Feb 2020
15,740 posts
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Chrisull
And also what pisses me off about the BBC is then they scoop up some of the best young journos from Sky/Channel 4- Faisal Islam, Lewis Goodall and the muzzle them, or put them out of the way. Also very classy of them to axe the Victoria Darbyshire show. You know what it used to be said if the BBC were annoying both the left and the right, they were doing their job, but also the opposite can be true, they are annoying both the left and the right because they are failing to do their job.
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Feb 2020
7:34pm, 10 Feb 2020
9,526 posts
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rf_fozzy
So getting Brexit done apparently means building a stupidly expensive bridge over some of the stormiest stretches of water possible. What is about Johnson and bridges? |
Feb 2020
7:35pm, 10 Feb 2020
2,610 posts
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TomahawkMike
David Cullinane shouting 'up the ra' after his result came in is inexcusable. It's another example of nationalism aimed at division and conflict. There is no unity in that cry. My relatives in Ireland are pissed off.
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Feb 2020
7:52pm, 10 Feb 2020
6,347 posts
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jda
It's sad that the BBC's total dereliction of duty over politics and current affairs risks decapitating what is fundamentally a strong broadcast service over a wide range of topics, but it was their choice to do this to themselves and they've alienated a large part of their historical support. It's a mug's game trying to save people from themselves. See also working class brexit voters. Shrug. |
Feb 2020
8:05pm, 10 Feb 2020
878 posts
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Ally-C
Boris Johnson & his Bridge, serial shite talker talks shite, there’s a surprise.
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