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Dec 2019
1:54pm, 20 Dec 2019
848 posts
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Roberto
Macca (going back a few pages I know) but I made a similar comment regarding hadrian's wall. I live in northumberland and if scotland is to get independence, I would very much wish that Sturgeon comes and reclaims all the land north of hadrian's wall. (Maybe except blyth as they let me down big time).
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Dec 2019
1:57pm, 20 Dec 2019
9,818 posts
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Joopsy
The entitlement beliefs of (mostly, the younger generation) need to be challenged.
I get really wound up about this one. In my opinion it isn t the younger generation who are entitled, it is the younger generation who are open minded, tolerant and outward looking. It is my generation (I am 49) that wants to pull the rug up and say f**k you just suck it up. My generation that could leave school and sign straight on the dole and claim benefits, my generation that really could dick about and just live off the state without having to work hard. This generation want action and want to hold people to account for being dickheads, there is nothing entitled or snowflakey about that.
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Dec 2019
2:22pm, 20 Dec 2019
27,191 posts
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macca 53
Roberto, I’d prefer it if the border went along the A66 (or for some members of my family) the M62!
Joopsy yes, the members of this thread are largely in the “ruling” generation (don’t policemen, doctors and teachers look young nowadays), but I’m pretty sure I dicked about as much as the current cohort of 18 year olds when I was that age and thought the the older generation (my parents)knew nothing!
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Dec 2019
2:54pm, 20 Dec 2019
149 posts
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Stander Claus
124 majority vote for the Boris Brexit deal.
Too early to tell yet, but makes you wonder where the other 44 votes came from assuming no tory dissenters.
Also makes you wonder why those 44 were dicking about before the GE and not voting for Boris's deal which has been made even harder since the GE.
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Dec 2019
3:11pm, 20 Dec 2019
2,413 posts
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Fellrunning
Frankly if they all wanted Brexit so much why didn't they vote for May's deal?. I'm not a conspiracy theorist as a rule but it strokes me that there's a back story here.
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Dec 2019
3:13pm, 20 Dec 2019
150 posts
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Stander Claus
As people have said repeatedly, May's deal had the distinct possibility of leaving the UK stuck in the EU with no way out.
It wasn't Brexit, and that's why the ERG (amongst others) constantly voted it down.
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Dec 2019
3:30pm, 20 Dec 2019
2,486 posts
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J2R
Just in case you're not trolling again, Stander, and you genuinely don't see what the difference is, I will venture to respond. Now there is nothing to play for. Those who opposed the deal (well, actually, not deal, withdrawal agreement) before the election, in the hope of preventing or limiting the gross self-harm Brexit will mean for the country, now realise that there is no hope of stopping it, not against an 80 majority. All of the ex-Conservative moderates have been purged as well. So we might as well just press on and hope to limit the damage further down the line. Anything else at this stage would be pointless self-indulgent obstructionism.
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Dec 2019
3:33pm, 20 Dec 2019
2,487 posts
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J2R
Stander: "May's deal had the distinct possibility of leaving the UK stuck in the EU with no way out."
So please explain to me the logic of this. The backstop would only be a permanent feature if the alternative arrangements did not happen. Yet we were assured by the Government over and over that technical solutions to the issue were ready to go from day one, so it would surely be inconceivable that we would remain 'stuck in the EU'? Unless they were lying?
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Dec 2019
3:40pm, 20 Dec 2019
31,957 posts
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LindsD
6 votes only from labour.
Rest were tories.
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Dec 2019
3:43pm, 20 Dec 2019
43,624 posts
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Diogenes
Totally agree with Joopsy above.
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