Oct 2015
10:40am, 23 Oct 2015
6,789 posts
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Binks
I am soon to become a father (and hence soon to become an authority on all things to do with parenting). One of the most important things I will teach my kids is where food comes from and how to prepare meals and be healthy. I grew up a lot on processed food. it wasn't until I lived with my wife that I really discovered how to cook veg/pulses/beans etc to make nice tasting, healthy and cheap food. I don't think taxing the bad stuff will lead to people saying "well, best put the pop-tarts down then and roast a lentil filled marrow with some parsley". Punishing via tax does nothing at the sharp end. It will reduce sugar consumption but won't help those who think they have no other option but to eat these foods. |
Oct 2015
10:57am, 23 Oct 2015
6,947 posts
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simbil
Does anyone think they have no option other than to eat pop-tarts? Damn those marketing boys are good 
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Oct 2015
11:22am, 23 Oct 2015
1,216 posts
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Spleen
Making your lunch the evening before is not "super organised", it is just "organised". Apart from the cost issue it tastes much nicer than anything you could buy for £4 in the supermarket. As for sugar tax, yes, it is a stupid idea. People who overdose on sugar already pay an effective tax because of the billions they cut off the country's NHS and pension bills, thanks to their lower life expectancy. They already receive less in benefits and now we expect them to pay more in tax? Neither political wing can claim it is just to expect those who will not enjoy much of an old age to subsidise the twenty-year retirements of the lentil-eating lycra-clad bourgeoisie. |
Oct 2015
11:37am, 23 Oct 2015
5,162 posts
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paul the builder
But are we all agreed that information in the hands of the consumer is good? Is anyone here defending the Food Industry position of resisting changes to food labelling rules?
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Oct 2015
12:01pm, 23 Oct 2015
16,760 posts
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DeeGee
Jambo, your employer is legally obliged to provide an adequate supply of wholesome drinking water. Do they not?
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Oct 2015
12:15pm, 23 Oct 2015
5,434 posts
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Jambomo
Lol well it depends on your outlook, there is a cafe but you have to pay for that. There is water in the taps which I think is drinkable but everyone here basically warns against it- I did try it and it tasted horrible. I guess you probably could drink it though. Anyway the original point wasn't whether you could do a healthy lunch on no money, it was why are the meal deals and food offers generally for unhealthy foods? Which I still think is often the case. I am back to my normal packed lunch today as we were able to go shopping last night 😄 Spleen, there is some level of organisation required, shopping for good stuff, cooking/making it. It's fine for us standard 35 hour a week people (I was just a bit disorganised) but factor in things like looking after kids or working more than a standard week and even that level of organisation will be hard for some people. |
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Oct 2015
12:27pm, 23 Oct 2015
6,790 posts
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Binks
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Oct 2015
12:32pm, 23 Oct 2015
736 posts
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Surelynot
Interesting point made previously about alcoholism being a choice. OK, I will bite. Is this a choice or a disease? |
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Oct 2015
12:37pm, 23 Oct 2015
16,761 posts
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DeeGee
I don't think anyone ever starts drinking with the intention of ending up an alcoholic. I don't think any addiction is a choice. However, the first step of the rung does require a constructive choice. I've put a fair few things in me. Become addicted to some, not bothered again with others, had a healthy adult relationship with still others. At no point did I ever decide I wanted to become dependent on them. Although with some of them I did make a conscious decision that I didn't want to be dependent on them. |
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Oct 2015
1:12pm, 23 Oct 2015
1,218 posts
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Spleen
There was an excellent South Park episode on the alcoholism / disease question: [at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting] Stan: Uh, look, my dad was here yesterday and you all kind of messed him up by telling him he had a disease? AA leader: Alcoholism is a disease. Stan: No it- it's not. And, y-you can't just go around saying stuff like that to people like my dad. He's kind of, a hypochondriac. AA member: It is a disease because it's a physical dependency. That makes it a disease. Stan: No, cancer is a disease. My dad needs to drink less. Thanks to you people, my dad now thinks he has a disease that he can't cure himself. AA leader: He can't quit by himself. None of us could. He needs divine intervention. Spirituality. Stan: No, he just needs discipline. AA leader: Young man, do you know anything about the 12-Step Program? Stan: Yeah, and I also know a thing or two about cults. I don't agree 100% with the absolutist view of the writers via Stan. But alcoholism is only a disease in a very metaphorical sense. It is not caused by an external factor like a bacteria or virus, it is not contagious, and no disease can be cured by conscious choice. I can see why people use "disease" in a metaphorical sense (it does after all cause physical changes to the body and brain, it is not entirely a mental/willpower issue) but it is wrong to disempower people by describing it as a literal disease. |
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