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Oct 2019
4:02pm, 29 Oct 2019
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DeeGee
Better that the 16/17 year olds only turn out to vote if they know, understand and care than the 40/50/60/70 year olds vote every time for a pig in lipstick because it wears a blue/red/yellow/purple/sky-blue-ginger rosette.

Or should I credit the man in the street with more understanding, and an A-level politics student with less?
Oct 2019
4:03pm, 29 Oct 2019
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Ally-C
electoral-reform.org.uk
Oct 2019
4:03pm, 29 Oct 2019
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DeeGee
lmgtfy.com
jda
Oct 2019
4:03pm, 29 Oct 2019
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jda
ok I agree with that. After all, we are going to have a GE in a couple of years regardless and those conditions will not be met unless there is a change to the law. I really don't like the principle of ramming stuff through with minimal consideration even though I do agree with the principle.
jda
Oct 2019
4:05pm, 29 Oct 2019
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jda
lots of cross-posts but my last was in response to HG!
Oct 2019
4:05pm, 29 Oct 2019
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DeeGee
Literally the first link! Verbatim ac litteratim.

The sort of thing that people do if they want to research a question and make up their own minds about an issue.
Oct 2019
4:25pm, 29 Oct 2019
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Ally-C
Towards the end of the campaign, the BBC staged a live TV debate in the 13,000 seat Glasgow Hydro arena, inviting 16 and 17-year-olds from every secondary school in Scotland. Despite widespread scepticism about whether the broadcasters could meet their ambition, the students filled the auditorium to the brim, providing a remarkable example of their level of interest and engagement.

The statistics backed that up. By polling day, the Electoral Commission declared that 121,497 16 and 17-year-olds had taken the effort to register their intention to vote. It amounted to more than 90% of the total age group. Polling stations across the country witnessed school pupils in their uniforms eagerly taking up the opportunity to cast their ballot. By then, no-one was arguing that extending the franchise had been a mistake.
Oct 2019
4:52pm, 29 Oct 2019
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HappyG(rrr)
Like. +1 Thanks Ally! :-) G
jda
Oct 2019
4:54pm, 29 Oct 2019
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jda
Assuming a half-decent educational system, that age group should be particularly well-equipped to make decisions of that nature. Once they are busy with work and young families it's easy to see how they might become more disengaged.
Oct 2019
5:19pm, 29 Oct 2019
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Chrisull
Give them the vote. But yes neither should it be rammed through.

And if we're gonna get all ageist about it, should a care home bound 98 year old with degrading mental faculties get more respect than a 16 year old? Sadly I was more mentally sharp at 14 than I am now - I was certainly a far better chess player then. It was just experience of life that was lacking. If at 14 I'd picked up a knife and stabbed someone, I'd imagine I'd have been treated as an adult pretty bloody quickly by the legal system you can bet. Fortunately even at 14 I was switched on enough to know that would be a completely stupid thing to do.

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