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Oct 2019
8:29pm, 29 Oct 2019
2,912 posts
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FenlandRunner
I agree with you J2R. Perhaps it should be in more than one parties manifesto and it can be discussed and voted through properly in the next government period.
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Oct 2019
9:10pm, 29 Oct 2019
3,609 posts
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run free
I did ask a Leavers group what makes BJ’s deal better than May’s and no one answered..... though were happy to shout down everything else!
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Oct 2019
9:21pm, 29 Oct 2019
2,913 posts
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FenlandRunner
run free, that question was a bit like comparing cat shit with dog shit, forget the animal, it is still shit.
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Oct 2019
10:29pm, 29 Oct 2019
8,249 posts
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simbil
So Thursday 12th December is on. No idea how this will go - polls favour tories but nobody else has started to campaign yet.
All to play for - Tory Brexit with Johnson or referendum of Tory Brexit vs remain under a coalition/lab gov (presumably).
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Oct 2019
11:02pm, 29 Oct 2019
3,610 posts
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run free
FR - just wanted to know why Leavers think that BJ’s deal is the one and not TM’s .... as well as for a bit of entertainment 
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Oct 2019
11:03pm, 29 Oct 2019
3,611 posts
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run free
Simbol I will be getting the local university students to take action
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Oct 2019
11:04pm, 29 Oct 2019
3,612 posts
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run free
Simbol = Simbil
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Oct 2019
12:15am, 30 Oct 2019
22,849 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Leavers think Johnson's deal is better because it frees most of the UK from the backstop, so we get to "leave" properly rather than being trapped until the backstop issue is resolved.
Underlying that is the belief that a UK out of the single market and customs union is a better result than being stuck in them but with no say in the rules. Economically speaking all the forecasts beg to differ with that however, but as we know, Brexiteers want "proper Brexit" at any cost so the forecasts don't really concern them.
In short, economically it isn't better but in terms of the alleged "will of the people" it is. Which is the more important depends on whether you voted Leave or Remain.
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Oct 2019
6:06am, 30 Oct 2019
5,762 posts
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jda
Tho the Tories were spinning the deal as especially good for NI because it kept them in the single market... Figure that out if you can!
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Oct 2019
9:08am, 30 Oct 2019
16,192 posts
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Stander
No way should are limits be standardised for different things.
There are reasons why age of consent, dying for your country (as opposed to joining the military), leaving full time education, etc have different limits.
It's because society has deemed that these are the appropriate ages for these activities.
We shouldn't standardise the number just because it's easy.
The same way that hygiene standards for meat and mushrooms are completely different - even though both are food.
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