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Oct 2019
4:31pm, 25 Oct 2019
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run free
An extension for May 2020 works for me ;)
Oct 2019
4:33pm, 25 Oct 2019
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larkim
The ever sensible Katya Adler seems to think the EU is very keen NOT to be seen to be the ones in control of the political timetable. And so will wait for the FTPA vote before declaring their hand.

Stalemate on Monday? Bojo asks, Corbyn says no, EU offers flextension?
Oct 2019
4:40pm, 25 Oct 2019
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fetcheveryone
They weren't joking about a Brexit 50p:

theguardian.com

*shudder*
jda
Oct 2019
4:43pm, 25 Oct 2019
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jda
May 2200 would be better.

That makes no sense larkim. On any front. Firstly, the EU have been asked for a specific date, and stating that they will base their response to this on further actions in parliament is precisely the interference that they claim to be keen to avoid. And secondly, all extensions are automatically flexible and can be cut short in the event of an agreement being passed, so talk of a "flextension" is nothing more than posturing.
Oct 2019
5:01pm, 25 Oct 2019
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Non-runner
Bit of a bromance between Boris and Macron, what on Earth is going on?!
Oct 2019
5:04pm, 25 Oct 2019
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simbil
Any one of the EU27 can influence the timing of and what the extension is.
Tusk wants to grant 31st jan, leaders may drag their feet if they want to see what happens instead.
If extension not agreed today, there may be a summit on Monday. That in turn is not guaranteed to resolve the extension question.
jda
Oct 2019
5:13pm, 25 Oct 2019
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jda
It would certainly be exciting if the EU waited until about Wednesday, or perhaps came up with a different date, which would mean parliament would have to explicitly agree to it before we all turn into pumpkins on Thursday night.

A bit of panic buying might focus minds a little.
Oct 2019
5:46pm, 25 Oct 2019
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Fellrunning
The EU will not want their fingerprints on an accidental no deal. Sometime over the weekend Merkel will take Macron round the back of the bike sheds and presto.....
Oct 2019
6:21pm, 25 Oct 2019
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Chrisull
So what might Labour do instead was being asked here.... here's one scenario (courtesy of Sam Coates - Sky New/former Times)

"There is a curious plan emerging to corner Boris Johnson next week

The remain alliance have been discussing a nascent idea - but aren't sure whether to go ahead with it or whether it'll ultimately help them.

In other words, don't pay *too* much attention to this. Yet.

So
1. After the election vote on Monday fails, hold a vote on an SO24

2. This SO24 would seize control of the order paper for Tuesday. This would be used to bring back the WAB on Tuesday and try and push it through

Why do that?

- Letwin wants to be seen helping get Brexit thru
- 2nd Ref-ers want to attach 2Ref amendment to WAB
- Supporters of Common Market 2.0 also want chance to do amendment

But also

- *This possibly delays election vote until after Nov 5 meaning no 2019 polling day*

3. Government would then have to decide whether to agree to push thru legislation thru various stages possibly making a Dec 12 election impossible

4. But if they've lost the election vote, why wouldn't they?

But there's a drawback to this plan

If this plan delays the death of the WAB by a few more weeks, rather than killing it next week, the UK will effectively have used up its extension for no purpose, and need ANOTHER one from the EU to hold an election without Jan 31 no deal cliff edge."
jda
Oct 2019
6:31pm, 25 Oct 2019
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jda
Idiotic to try to force through the WAB with amendments. Even more idiotic to help its passage without changes. Just say no.

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